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Started by custosnox, October 14, 2009, 05:21:53 PM

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FOTD

Quote from: Conan71 on October 15, 2009, 12:36:24 PM
Yeah, may be a disaster for '12 but she looks totally HAWT in that photo!


Sad that this is what they are counting on....FOTD wouldn't do her. Coco? Certainly. Hard up?

Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on October 15, 2009, 12:43:16 PM
Sad that this is what they are counting on....FOTD wouldn't do her. Coco? Certainly. Hard up?

Nope, Conan isn't hard up and doesn't do other people's wives.  Bad karma.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

sgrizzle

Quote from: Conan71 on October 15, 2009, 10:49:10 AM
For those of you who don't click the links:

"After receiving negative feedback from the picture from her night in, McCain recoiled, saying she might quit the popular social networking site.

"When I am alone in my apartment, I wear tank tops and sweat pants, I had no idea this makes me a 'slut', I can't even tell you how hurt I am," McCain tweeted."

Oh boo-hoo Megan might take her breasticles and quit Twitter.

Attention whore.

I wouldn't say that is accurate because she isn't the one who made a big deal of it. You'll notice the author of the story makes a point that she "hadn't even removed the photo"

FOTD

Quote from: Conan71 on October 15, 2009, 12:56:09 PM
Nope, Conan isn't hard up and doesn't do other people's wives.  Bad karma.



Smart....wouldn't want to read you were offed  by any mad men.

cannon_fodder

Sarah Pallin has a 37% approval rating, with 51% giving her an unfavorable rating:
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/fav-palin.php

Quoteaccording to the poll, a whopping 67 percent of Americans -- and 43 percent of Republicans -- say they would not like to see her president someday
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/07/29/2014067.aspx
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/WSJ-NBC_Poll090729.pdf

For some reason, I don't see Palin as being the savior of the GOP.

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swake

Quote from: cannon_fodder on October 16, 2009, 01:11:07 PM
Sarah Pallin has a 37% approval rating, with 51% giving her an unfavorable rating:
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/fav-palin.php
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/07/29/2014067.aspx
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/WSJ-NBC_Poll090729.pdf

For some reason, I don't see Palin as being the savior of the GOP.



Savior? No, but she maybe the Republican's last mistake.

The Republican Party needs to have someone bring them back to the middle, to gain moderate voters and eat at the natural fissure in the Democratic Party between Labor and Progressives.

But right now the Republican Party seems to be too busy purging all moderates voices from their ranks for that to happen. In the marginalized and far right wing environment that is the Republican Party today she certainly can win a nomination and then go down in flames in a general election.

If that were to happen I could easily see the pro-business/trade wing of the Republican fracturing from right wing Christian elements and forming a more ecumenical but pro business party that really could start to win elections again by sapping those progressives from the Democrats. But that would probably permanently marginalize the remaining Republican Party as just a conservative Christian party with little money and only small power base in the rural south.

Conan71

Quote from: swake on October 16, 2009, 01:28:31 PM
Savior? No, but she maybe the Republican's last mistake.

The Republican Party needs to have someone bring them back to the middle, to gain moderate voters and eat at the natural fissure in the Democratic Party between Labor and Progressives.

But right now the Republican Party seems to be too busy purging all moderates voices from their ranks for that to happen. In the marginalized and far right wing environment that is the Republican Party today she certainly can win a nomination and then go down in flames in a general election.

If that were to happen I could easily see the pro-business/trade wing of the Republican fracturing from right wing Christian elements and forming a more ecumenical but pro business party that really could start to win elections again by sapping those progressives from the Democrats. But that would probably permanently marginalize the remaining Republican Party as just a conservative Christian party with little money and only small power base in the rural south.


There used to be a point I'd have been too subjective to buy into your assertion, but I think you've got a good point.  I never thought I'd bail, but after the city elections I'll no longer be a registered Republican.  I'm seeing very little effort of the remaining power in the GOP of trying to find a middle ground on important issues, instead all I'm seeing is a bunch of McCarthyism and precious little leadership.  The GOP is in total disarray and hasn't done anything I remotely call fiscally conservative in years.  It's sad to see how badly the GOP pissed away their clout and credibility.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on October 16, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
There used to be a point I'd have been too subjective to buy into your assertion, but I think you've got a good point.  I never thought I'd bail, but after the city elections I'll no longer be a registered Republican.  I'm seeing very little effort of the remaining power in the GOP of trying to find a middle ground on important issues, instead all I'm seeing is a bunch of McCarthyism and precious little leadership.  The GOP is in total disarray and hasn't done anything I remotely call fiscally conservative in years.  It's sad to see how badly the GOP pissed away their clout and credibility.

Or stay Republican and vote for the least crazy in the primaries.  Try to help them.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on October 16, 2009, 03:09:46 PM
Or stay Republican and vote for the least crazy in the primaries.  Try to help them.

That's what I've been doing lately, but I figured I'd stage my own meaningless hissy-fit protest and waive my right to vote in primaries since we have closed primaries to show those bastards in OKC and DC.  I know they will miss me when I'm gone.  8)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on October 16, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
That's what I've been doing lately, but I figured I'd stage my own meaningless hissy-fit protest and waive my right to vote in primaries since we have closed primaries to show those bastards in OKC and DC.  I know they will miss me when I'm gone.  8)

The "they" count on it.  (queue evil music here)

Red Arrow

Quote from: swake on October 16, 2009, 01:28:31 PM
But that would probably permanently marginalize the remaining Republican Party as just a conservative Christian party with little money and only small power base in the rural south.


Don't count on the "little money" thing.  Some of those "churches" have a pretty big budget.
 

USRufnex

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Quote from: Red Arrow on October 17, 2009, 01:18:24 AM
Don't count on the "little money" thing.  Some of those "churches" have a pretty big budget.

Agreed.

I wouldn't underestimate the power of evangelical/fundamentalist $$$ to push Mike Huckabee over the top for 2012 over Mitt Romney.

I think Palin will be too busy resorting to motivate-the-base soundbite sloganeering than take the time/effort/money to run for prez..... http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/1518598.html

If she studies and gets some "depth" in her policies/approaches, she'd have a decent chance in 2012...... but I think she'll do like most of the other Assembly of God folks do, and blindly follow her own biased dogmas and misconceptions without examining or questioning her own perspective or context....

Conan71

Quote from: USRufnex on October 20, 2009, 08:27:08 PM
Agreed.

I wouldn't underestimate the power of evangelical/fundamentalist $$$ to push Mike Huckabee over the top for 2012 over Mitt Romney.

I think Palin will be too busy resorting to motivate-the-base soundbite sloganeering than take the time/effort/money to run for prez..... http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/1518598.html

If she studies and gets some "depth" in her policies/approaches, she'd have a decent chance in 2012...... but I think she'll do like most of the other Assembly of God folks do, and blindly follow her own biased dogmas and misconceptions without examining or questioning her own perspective or context....

They're going to look pretty funny with about 20% of the GOP left in tact while the rest of us flee the fundies who have seized the party.  I honestly think if every state had closed primaries, Romney would have been the nominee and would have been the right person to lead us out of the economic mess we are in.  I also like that he didn't wear his religion on his sleeve.  Instead everyone else was far more interested in his religion than he was.  I have no more an issue about having a Mormon in the White House than a Jew, Roman Catholic, Muslim, Baptist, or AOG, so long as their personal spiritual beliefs remain their own and they don't use it as a basis to shape policy and write laws.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

rwarn17588

Quote from: swake on October 16, 2009, 01:28:31 PM
Savior? No, but she maybe the Republican's last mistake.

The Republican Party needs to have someone bring them back to the middle, to gain moderate voters and eat at the natural fissure in the Democratic Party between Labor and Progressives.

But right now the Republican Party seems to be too busy purging all moderates voices from their ranks for that to happen. In the marginalized and far right wing environment that is the Republican Party today she certainly can win a nomination and then go down in flames in a general election.

If that were to happen I could easily see the pro-business/trade wing of the Republican fracturing from right wing Christian elements and forming a more ecumenical but pro business party that really could start to win elections again by sapping those progressives from the Democrats. But that would probably permanently marginalize the remaining Republican Party as just a conservative Christian party with little money and only small power base in the rural south.


+1. Post of the week.

rwarn17588

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Quote from: Conan71 on October 21, 2009, 09:27:20 AM
They're going to look pretty funny with about 20% of the GOP left in tact while the rest of us flee the fundies who have seized the party.  I honestly think if every state had closed primaries, Romney would have been the nominee and would have been the right person to lead us out of the economic mess we are in.  I also like that he didn't wear his religion on his sleeve.  Instead everyone else was far more interested in his religion than he was.  I have no more an issue about having a Mormon in the White House than a Jew, Roman Catholic, Muslim, Baptist, or AOG, so long as their personal spiritual beliefs remain their own and they don't use it as a basis to shape policy and write laws.


McCain was a pretty moderate guy, too. Why do you think Romney would have done better than McCain in a closed primary?

I saw the polling data, and McCain had the highest approval rating of any of the Republican presidential candidates by a sizable margin. So, therefore, there was absolutely no reason to believe that McCain wouldn't do very well in the primaries.

I think a lot of Republicans were repelled by Romney not because of his religion, but because of his wildly inconsistent answers on issues. He wasn't nicknamed "Multiple-Choice Mitt" for nothing.

McCain, frankly, lost his moderate and sensible Republican cachet by choosing the empty-headed Palin as a running mate. All those main reasons he gave earlier for voting for him (experience, judgment) went out the window with that one pick -- especially after her disastrous interview with Katie Couric. And nothing has happened since to make her (and him) look any better.