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Gomez's felony arrest record on internet

Started by Bubblehead, November 07, 2009, 08:14:07 AM

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Bubblehead

DefeatGomez.com has posted Gomez's felony arrest and conviction record. It brings up the question as to why Gomez didn't come clean with the Tulsa World on two seperate occasions.

My questions are:

1.Did Gomez not tell the truth or did the Tulsa World not disclose it?
2. Can a convicted felon vote and run for office?



rwarn17588

Quote from: Bubblehead on November 07, 2009, 08:14:07 AM
DefeatGomez.com has posted Gomez's felony arrest and conviction record. It brings up the question as to why Gomez didn't come clean with the Tulsa World on two seperate occasions.

My questions are:

1.Did Gomez not tell the truth or did the Tulsa World not disclose it?
2. Can a convicted felon vote and run for office?




I guess this means that Bubblehead isn't going to vote for Gomez.  ;)

pmcalk

FYI, just because I know there is much confusion out there about the subject.  In Oklahoma, felons who have served out their time MAY VOTE in Oklahoma.  If you can vote, you can run for office.

So convicted felons can run for office.  Isn't Paul Tay a convicted felon, too?
 

JustSayNo

I heard Gomez BIT the police officer - can anyone confirm that? 

TeeDub


He didn't bite them, the dumb officer stuck his <insert body part> into Gomez's mouth.

patric

Quote from: TeeDub on November 07, 2009, 10:42:46 AM
He didn't bite them, the dumb officer stuck his <insert body part> into Gomez's mouth.

Sounds a bit like the tactic of throwing yourself in the path of a car so you can claim awdw.

When did the incident take place?
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

RevereSide

#6
Quote from: patric on November 07, 2009, 11:59:43 AM

When did the incident take place?

According to the records he plead guilty to felony A&B on an officer in 1997 and completed a 2 year deferred sentence in 1999 after he paid a $1,000 fine.  He let the Tulsa World think he was only guilty of public drunk in 2004 and this year when in fact the drunk charge & resisting arrest charge was dismissed in 1997 while he was serving his felony deferred sentence. 

Shouldn't PJ & Brian ask him why he did not tell them about this and let the public believe he was only guilty of PD?  The Tulsa Police officers name was "A. Surratt."  Anyone know this cop?  They should ask him what happened.

See:  http://www.defeatgomez.com/

See also:

1/30/04
4 candidates had run-ins with law
http://www.tulsaworld.com/site/articlepath.aspx?articleid=040130_Ne_a18_fourc&archive=yes

8/23/09
Records yield candidates' legal woes

http://www.tulsaworld.com/site/articlepath.aspx?articleid=20090823_11_A14_Aswith70119&archive=yes


patric

Quote from: RevereSide on November 07, 2009, 12:20:38 PM
According to the records he plead guilty to felony A&B on an officer in 1997 and completed a 2 year deferred sentence in 1999 after he paid a $1,000 fine.  He let the Tulsa World think he was only guilty of public drunk in 2004 and this year when in fact the drunk charge & resisting arrest charge was dismissed in 1997 while he was serving his felony deferred sentence. 

Shouldn't PJ & Brian ask him why he did not tell them about this and let the public believe he was only guilty of PD?  The Tulsa Police officers name was "A. Surratt."  Anyone know this cop?  They should ask him what happened.

Im not at all defending Gomez, but with the only charges being public drunk and resisting that could have been nothing more than a cop having a bad day. 
That could happen to anyone, and is not enough to hang him unless im just missing something.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

RevereSide

#8
Quote from: patric on November 07, 2009, 01:14:40 PM
Im not at all defending Gomez, but with the only charges being public drunk and resisting that could have been nothing more than a cop having a bad day. 
That could happen to anyone, and is not enough to hang him unless im just missing something.

I guess you misread the documents--Gomez was charged with three things--felony A&B on a police officer, resiting arrest and public drunk.  He had a preliminary hearing on the felony on 5/28/97 in which 1 witness was sworn and he was bound over for trial on the felony charge in District Court. This means a witness-the officer that was assaulted--must have come to court and testified and that a judge found there was enough evidence to send the case to trial.

Next he appeared before a District Court Judge on 6-19-97 plead guilty to the felony and the drunk and resisting charge was dismissed. He must have made a plea bargain to avoid a trial--a trial in which a jury could find him guilty and send him to prison. He was then on a form of probation for almost two years in which he paid fines and then the case was finally dismissed and the record removed on  5-17-99.  Assaulting a police officer and pleading guilty to a felony is no small deal--especially for a would be city councilor who will vote on police department budgets and may need to ask questions and investigate police department actions.

What seems to really bother defeatgomez.com and others is that he did not come clean with this information when he first ran for office in 2004 and then the same error was repeated in 2009.  He let everyone think it was no big deal--just a little public drunk.  It appears it was much more than that!

The cover-up is almost always worse than the act itself.

Conan71

Hmmm, couple of first time posters, they weren't here specifically to do a hatchet job, I don't think.  I think Bubblehead might be Maria's husband.  I heard he made an donkey out of himself at the Renaissance homeowner's meeting with some rambling diatribe on Eric.  I was impressed with the dignified manner with which Eric and Maria interracted at the Lortondale meeting where Mr. Barnes was not an attendee.

FWIW- Eric is a good guy.  Maria is a good lady, both are worthy candidates for the interests of D-4 that's why it's been a difficult choice for me up until recently. 

Bubblehead, when you make accusations, please post your source material.  Sounds like he made a mistake.  If the officer roughed him up and Eric tried to defend himself, the officer can claim A&B on a PO.  I wasn't there, have no idea what happened, but it's been 12 years ago.  Not going to affect my vote.  If anything your posts have given me a distaste for the Barnes campaign.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: RevereSide on November 07, 2009, 01:49:25 PM
I guess you misread the documents--Gomez was charged with three things--felony A&B on a police officer, resiting arrest and public drunk.  He had a preliminary hearing on the felony on 5/28/97 in which 1 witness was sworn and he was bound over for trial on the felony charge in District Court. This means a witness-the officer that was assaulted--must have come to court and testified that a judge found there was enough evidence to send the case to trial.

Next he appeared before a District Court Judge on 6-19-97 plead guilty to the felony and the drunk and resisting charge was dismissed. He must have made a plea bargain to avoid a trial--a trial in which a jury could find him guilty and send him to prison. He was then on a form of probation for almost two years in which he paid fines and then the case was finally dismissed and the record removed on  5-17-99.  Assaulting a police officer and pleading guilty to a felony is no small deal--especially for a would be city councilor who will vote on police department budgets and may need to ask questions and investigate police department actions.

What seems to really bothers defeatgomez.com and others is that he did not come clean with this information when he first ran for office in 2004 and then the same error was repeated in 2009.  He let everyone think it was no big deal--just a little public drunk.  It appears it was much more than that!

The cover-up is almost always worse than the act itself.

You make it sound as if he got a special deal.  He didn't.  That's how it works.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

pmcalk

Quote from: Conan71 on November 07, 2009, 01:55:14 PM
Hmmm, couple of first time posters, they weren't here specifically to do a hatchet job, I don't think.  I think Bubblehead might be Maria's husband.  I heard he made an donkey out of himself at the Renaissance homeowner's meeting with some rambling diatribe on Eric.  I was impressed with the dignified manner with which Eric and Maria interracted at the Lortondale meeting where Mr. Barnes was not an attendee.

FWIW- Eric is a good guy.  Maria is a good lady, both are worthy candidates for the interests of D-4 that's why it's been a difficult choice for me up until recently. 

Bubblehead, when you make accusations, please post your source material.  Sounds like he made a mistake.  If the officer roughed him up and Eric tried to defend himself, the officer can claim A&B on a PO.  I wasn't there, have no idea what happened, but it's been 12 years ago.  Not going to affect my vote.  If anything your posts have given me a distaste for the Barnes campaign.
I have known Maria for years, and most people on the forum know that I am a big fan of hers.  I also know that Maria (and many others) have known that Gomez assaulted a police officer for years.  In the last election, as well as this one, Maria has made a point of not using his felony arrest in her campaign.  Many urged her to use the information to attack Gomez.  Instead, she has run an entirely positive campaign.

I don't know who Bubblehead is.  But I know that Gomez has made a lot of people angry, and any one of those people might be responsible for the website. 

I think ultimately it won't matter.  Maria will win the election, because she has tremendous support from accross district 4.  Even Michael Bates has endorsed Maria.  http://www.batesline.com/archives/2009/11/my-wife-wants-a-maria-barnes-yar.html.
 

patric

Quote from: pmcalk on November 07, 2009, 02:35:18 PM
I think ultimately it won't matter.  Maria will win the election, because she has tremendous support from accross district 4. 

I would concur, and add that Maria didnt turn her back on her neighbors in favor of developers, the billboard industry, etc. when in office.

When Maria gets her job back it will be because she is qualified, and not because her opponent hand an unfortunate encounter with someone on a power trip. 

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

swake

Quote from: rwarn17588 on November 07, 2009, 08:52:27 AM
I guess this means that Bubblehead isn't going to vote for Gomez.  ;)

12 total posts, I think all of them about Gomez, and all negative.

So Bubble, what's your stake in this race?

Bubblehead

Bubblehead's  "stake" in this is that I want to know why Gomez didn't mention his assault on a police officer and why the Tulsa World didn't report it.