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Started by GG, November 07, 2009, 10:28:20 PM

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WASHINGTON – In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed landmark health care legislation Saturday night to expand coverage to tens of millions who lack it and place tough new restrictions on the insurance industry. Republican opposition was nearly unanimous.

The 220-215 vote cleared the way for the Senate to begin debate on the issue that has come to overshadow all others in Congress.

A triumphant Speaker Nancy Pelosi likened the legislation to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later.

"It provides coverage for 96 percent of Americans. It offers everyone, regardless of health or income, the peace of mind that comes from knowing they will have access to affordable health care when they need it," said Rep. John Dingell, the 83-year-old Michigan lawmaker who has introduced national health insurance in every Congress since succeeding his father in 1955.

Read more here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul
Trust but verify

we vs us

The public option lives! 

That said, the sausage grinder grinds on.  Next up, the senate.

FOTD

#2
That little a$$hat Dan Boren broke from POTUS Obama...he's a chump.

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1109/Democratic_no_votes_.html?showall

Democratic no votes

"House Democratic leadership saw 39 of their members vote against the bill and, with one Republican yes vote, Democrats passed sweeping health reform legislation 220-215. While the reasons these Democrats have offered for opposing the $1.2 trillion bill vary, as my colleagues Patrick O'Connor and Charle Mahtesian wrote earlier tonight, they nearly all share a common trait: They are among the most politically vulnerable incumbents in the House, and they tend to represent conservative-minded seats that John McCain won in 2008."

Guess Dan Boren never knew Mike Synar nor the real people in  his own district. The little squirt must be feeling vulnerable.

Yes, next up the mighty impotent GOP minority...Dr. No, it's your time. Go in there and act like the multi millionaire Doctor/Senaturd you are!

Conan71

That's rich.  You had a problem with Repiglicans rubber-stamping Bush inititatives, but don't have anything good to say about someone capable of thinking outside party arm-twisting? 

Dan's a moderate, he represents a district with moderate Democrat values.  Has that ever been a secret?  Representatives are supposed to vote in the best interests of their own constituency.  He was reluctant to endorse Obama's campaign.  Where's the mystery here?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Quote from: Conan71 on November 08, 2009, 09:28:44 AM
That's rich.  You had a problem with Repiglicans rubber-stamping Bush inititatives, but don't have anything good to say about someone capable of thinking outside party arm-twisting? 

Dan's a moderate, he represents a district with moderate Democrat values.  Has that ever been a secret?  Representatives are supposed to vote in the best interests of their own constituency.  He was reluctant to endorse Obama's campaign.  Where's the mystery here?

So. Dan Boren's constituents don't like medicare and are against health reform? Nope. He's a dope.

And dopey is a DINO.


Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on November 08, 2009, 09:45:51 AM
So. Dan Boren's constituents don't like medicare and are against health reform? Nope. He's a dope.


Where's your poll numbers to back that up?

The bill is a pile and he knows it.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

USRufnex

#6
If the healthcare bill empowers me to be able to change jobs.... or not have to worry about my pre-existing condition if I lose my job, then serve me the "pile."  It beats my status-quo "market-based" alternatives.... "choice" in healthcare?  Gimme a break.  The only entity that chooses is my employer, and if I don't like the insurance company my employer has chosen for me, I am SOL..... and if we do nothing and I'm denied coverage in the coming years due to a pre-existing condition, isn't that a form of "rationing?"

So, I don't want the baby thrown out with the bathwater... I want that bathwater used to drown Grover Nordquist and this criminal...



****FOTD.... back when Mike Synar was in office, did that house district include Durant?  I don't think Synar could have ever won elected office in Wes Watkins' district (b/c of the Daily Oklahoman factor)....

guido911

Quote from: USRufnex on November 08, 2009, 12:12:41 PM
If the healthcare bill empowers me to be able to change jobs.... or not have to worry about my pre-existing condition if I lose my job, then serve me the "pile"  


If the healthcare bill empowers me to be able to change jobs.... or not have to worry about my pre-existing condition if I lose my job, paid for by someone else because I am compelled to mooch off others then serve me the "pile."

FIFY
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

The House bill is DOA in the Senate, according to RINO Lindsey Graham.  We shall see.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/08/ftn/main5576519.shtml
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

USRufnex

Quote from: guido911 on November 08, 2009, 01:37:58 PM
If the healthcare bill empowers me to be able to change jobs.... or not have to worry about my pre-existing condition if I lose my job, paid for by someone else because I am compelled to mooch off others then serve me the "pile."

FIFY

Frankly, I wish you'd stop acting like YOU pay for everything and benefit from nothing....

You didn't have any problem with George Kaiser mooching off the public dime for the River Tax....

Funny dat.   ::)


USRufnex

#10
Quote from: guido911 on November 08, 2009, 01:44:06 PM
The House bill is DOA in the Senate, according to RINO Lindsey Graham.  We shall see.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/08/ftn/main5576519.shtml

Dear Guido,

I hope you get cancer, then lose your job, get a letter from COBRA, then end up in a high risk insurance pool.
Have a nice day, and do what you do best.... mooch $$$ off the working class by charging them up the hoo-hah, then pretend YOU'RE the one who actually "creates wealth."   Pompous windbag.  >:(

guido911

Quote from: USRufnex on November 08, 2009, 03:44:17 PM
Dear Guido,

I hope you get cancer, then lose your job, get a letter from COBRA, then end up in a high risk insurance pool.
Have a nice day, and do what you do best.... mooch $$$ off the working class, then pretend YOU'RE the one who "creates wealth."   >:(

Aw, you gave me a "mad face". Now I'm really hurt.  I'll top ya with two  >:( >:(
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Red Arrow

Quote from: USRufnex on November 08, 2009, 12:12:41 PM

****FOTD.... back when Mike Synar was in office, did that house district include Durant?  I don't think Synar could have ever won elected office in Wes Watkins' district (b/c of the Daily Oklahoman factor)....

I don't know about Durant but some clever gerrymandering after (I believe) the 1980 census extended a loooong finger of Synar's district into northern Bixby and southeastern Tulsa in order to protect Jim Jones.  I didn't like either one of them.  They sounded good at town meetings and then went back to DC and voted something else.  

That's from my memory and I am not going to waste any time trying to document it for the non-believers.  It was too long ago.
 

FOTD

#13
Quote from: Red Arrow on November 08, 2009, 03:57:07 PM
I don't know about Durant but some clever gerrymandering after (I believe) the 1980 census extended a loooong finger of Synar's district into northern Bixby and southeastern Tulsa in order to protect Jim Jones.  I didn't like either one of them.  They sounded good at town meetings and then went back to DC and voted something else.  

That's from my memory and I am not going to waste any time trying to document it for the non-believers.  It was too long ago.

That gerrymandering is what took place.

Look, if that little dildo Dan had voted no for all the right reasons like Kucinich, at least you would have to give him credit for his reasoning. But he did this to get re-elected.

Kucinich's Brave Health Vote Vs. Obama's Failed Promise


"People like Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader and Michael Moore have been made pariahs by establishment Democrats. They have all been marginalized and made fun of...but check their records. They have been considered 'fringe' because they are telling us the truth about corporate abuses of power long before most of the rest of us catch up to the reality of what's happened."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/kucinichs-brave-health-vo_b_349857.html



USRufnex

#14
Quote from: guido911 on November 08, 2009, 03:54:35 PM
Aw, you gave me a "mad face". Now I'm really hurt.  I'll top ya with two  >:( >:(

I watched other people have to go through "pre-existing conditions" -- one example, a friend of mine who was brutally raped by a man at Lake Hefner/OKC who had counseling sessions right after hers-- turned out he was a sex offender, cut the fuel line on her car, then offered her a ride.... she was denied healthcare coverage due to an unrelated health issue..... had to declare bankruptcy....

I have colon cancer.
I only ask that I be treated decently, and not be forced into bankruptcy.
I have worked hard for what I have, and do not want to be a burden to family, friends or anyone else.....

I am not "mooching" off anyone, you sad excuse for a human being.

Now, go die in a fire....

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=die%20in%20a%20fire

2.  die in a fire

A statement that shows such utter disgust, contempt, hatred, and/or loathing for a fellow human being that you wish for them to expire in an extremely painful(and one would assume spectacular and tragic) way. This is usually precipitated by someone so violating what the wisher considers basic human decency, morals, or intelligence that little other recourse is avaliable.