More downtown housing allocations

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Good Point ^

the new folks that are walking the streets

new street-walkers?

[Vision 2025]

Brady Lofts...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20091204_11_0_Tulsas904483

[SXSW]

Brady Lofts...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20091204_11_0_Tulsas904483

This appears to be the warehouse at the NE corner of Archer & Detroit.  Looking forward to seeing the plans and renderings tomorrow.

[RecycleMichael]

Good choice.

It was my favorite of the four.

[Hoss]

This appears to be the warehouse at the NE corner of Archer & Detroit.  Looking forward to seeing the plans and renderings tomorrow.

This one, I'm guessing?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=105+N+Detroit+Ave,+Tulsa,+Oklahoma+74120&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=56.06887,79.013672&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FU29JwIdNlBH-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=105+N+Detroit+Ave,+Tulsa,+Oklahoma+74120&ll=36.158736,-95.9897&spn=0.003534,0.004823&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=36.158812,-95.98974&panoid=LPh0f7clkchgnnZijXvjFQ&cbp=12,74.96,,0,0.29

[Townsend]

This one, I'm guessing?

That's New Medio on the corner, which unless something's changed recently is a Sager property.

[SXSW]

That's New Medio on the corner, which unless something's changed recently is a Sager property.

The 3 story building surrounding New Medio.

[PonderInc]

Or will it be the whole corner...?



Anyway, after seeing what a tremendous job the Snyders have done at the Mayo Hotel, it's pretty exciting to think about what's coming next.

[TheArtist]

Good for them. Glad to see another old building being rehabbed. But I want to see some new stuff too dang it lol. 

[Nic Nac]

Which corner of the building is the rendering showing us?  I am thinking the NE corner but not positive.  Great addition to the Brady district!

[Nic Nac]

Ok, got it.  That is the NE corner.  Looks like the entrance to the restaurant is coming off the alley but should have visibility from the ballpark.  Did the Snyders get the parking lot to the East as well?

[swake]

Good for them. Glad to see another old building being rehabbed. But I want to see some new stuff too dang it lol. 

It's not like there's nothing new planned, aren't the Tribune Lofts still coming, and the hotel across from the BOK Center?

What about the baseball stadium, isn't that new?

[Red Arrow]

Good for them. Glad to see another old building being rehabbed. But I want to see some new stuff too dang it lol. 

How about some new Art-Deco?  Would that be legitimate or taboo?

[TheArtist]

Hey, they do new everything else these days.  New Italian, new colonial, etc.  The great thing about deco is how versatile it is.  You can do something fresh, new and contemporary,,,, with a deco twist. Contemporary works wonderfully with Deco.  Some would say that Art Deco or Art Moderne never really died, but continued to evolve and branched into what we have today. Imo I wish Tulsa had been doing something here and there with deco throughout its history.  Would be neat to point to a building and say; thats 20s deco, thats 40s or 50s deco, thats an 80s deco building, that one is a contemporary deco building.  The style of each decade can be done in a deco manner just as you can see buildings that are Deco Gothic, Deco Egyptian, Pueblo Deco, and so on.   You can look around the city and see Italian, Gothic, Colonial, Frrench, etc. style buildings and homes from the 20s, 50s, 80s, and today.  And you can look at them and tell what era they were built in.  Each era had its own take.  So if its ok to do that, (and some people despise it) why not the same with Deco? 

[Townsend]

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0310/712230.html


Why does this story about the downtown housing study quote Sager and Arnett?

Is Sager the wisest choice?  It seems I see the First street lofts pictured in almost every DT housing story and it's the most troubled that I can tell.

Am I missing something?

Tulsa - With the BOK Center and soon-to-be completed baseball stadium, there is a lot going on downtown. But, there aren't that many places to live. A new study shows the demand is there.

Through various surveys, the study found a demand for at least four hundred living units this year alone, from condos to town houses. People want it. It's just a matter of getting them built.

From the outside, it may look like just another downtown building. But, inside, it's soon to be home to the First Street Lofts, by developer Michael Sager. 8 Talkback:
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"Those that want to live downtown should be able to live downtown," Sager says. "It's a housing choice."

And, according to the new study presented Wednesday, there are a lot of folks who would choose to live downtown if the housing was there.

The study shows for the next five years, Tulsa needs to build 325 to 475 units per year to meet the demand.

"It's about the urban experience," says Sager. "It's about vibrant, young, active and it's not necessarily young. We've had lots of inquiries for First Street Lofts, a demographic we wouldn't think."

David Arnett has lived in a downtown loft for almost ten years now.

"Downtown has been viable throughout it's history," Arnett says. "It just may not be as well packaged as suburbia."

And, it's the packaging that downtown needs to work on, including becoming more walkable. City leaders say it's something to work on because once the housing is there, business will follow. And, that means more money for the city as a whole.

"A dynamic downtown is a critical part of generating visitors, which is sales tax, hotel motel tax, which takes care of streets," says Bob Bolzle with the Economic Development Commission.

It's something Sager has practically been shouting from the rooftop of his lofts for years.

Many of the new lofts and housing developments downtown, like the Mayo Hotel, received money from Vision 2025 grants as part of revitalizing downtown. You can expect to see those lofts ready by summer.