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Started by shadows, November 20, 2009, 01:51:57 PM

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shadows

In the article of the morning TW concerning the $100,000 dollars jobs is being compared with the salaries paid other department heads on the city payroll.  What happened to comparing the salaries of department heads in the private sector?  

This is an insult to the retirees who sit in cold houses with minimum lighting who have to pay several dollars in fee's before they can have a glass of water to take their life saving pills with.   They are required to furnish some of their very limited income to pay these $100,000 dollars employees more than $25 to take a coffee break.

Is there something wrong with the system when even those seeking help from charity find that no funds are available?

Is there an answer?
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

TheArtist

I am at a complete loss trying to decipher the above post.  Anyone else want to give it a go?
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

jiminy

Quote from: TheArtist on November 21, 2009, 08:38:29 AM
I am at a complete loss trying to decipher the above post.  Anyone else want to give it a go?

My take is: city department heads make too much money, and retirees shouldn't have to pay their water bill. 

RecycleMichael

Morning jobs cost more than head. But with the right lighting, pills and a cold glass of water, retirees can insult coffee. Seek the system, it will make you available. That is the answer.
Power is nothing till you use it.

shadows

#4
From the answer to the post I would assume those answering received their money directly of indirectly from the suffering taxpayer distributed to the city's some 6,000 employees or about equal to 80% of Tulsa two major employers AA and the bus manufacturer.

I didn't realize that Tulsa schools were that far behind in their reading curriculum.  I am sure that one could find a fourth grader who could help the readers of the post and explain it to them.    ;D
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Hoss

Quote from: shadows on November 21, 2009, 08:14:09 PM
From the answer to the post I would assume those answering received their money directly of indirectly from the suffering taxpayer distributed to the city's some 6,000 employees or about equal to 80% of Tulsa two major employers AA and the bus manufacturer.

I didn't realize that Tulsa schools were that far behind in their reading curriculum.  I am sure that one could find a fourth grader who could help the readers of the post and explain it to them.    ;D


Since you're already here....

;D

shadows

Quote from: Hoss on November 21, 2009, 08:23:13 PM
Since you're already here....

;D

I didn't make it through the fourth grade as the school burn and before they could raise enough money to rebuild, the school marm had ran off with a cowboy. 

That was before families made a life occupation out of fanning the doors at city halls. 
;D
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

PonderInc

I think this is the story.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20091120_11_A1_Whilet245962&archive=yes

Although the city is having to make cutbacks, not every position is optional.  Indeed, it seems that many city positions are actually necessary.

For instance, I like it that when I call 911, someone answers the phone, and the hardware and software work...which enables the dispatchers to send emergency personnel to my location.

The article mentions that the City of Tulsa IT department (with hundreds of employees) has four people who make over $100,000.

This is not exceptional, except that it's such a bargain.  In fact, I bet the City has a hard time competing with local corporations, who invaribly pay quite a bit more for every technical position (and never have to ask for unpaid furlough days...)

shadows

#8
PonderInc:

That is the article that seems to be related to  only 4 person under one department.  The total number of so called department head making over the $100,000 poor boy salaries are not cited possibly because of the flack from a previous articles published on salaries.  The 15 minute nonproductive coffee break cost the working poor of Tulsa $25 each day in salaries they pay.  Think of the money that would be saved if these employee were to bring a thermo of coffee like those do in private industry.

The greater of saving on the budget would be finding a 8th grade student to read the articles and tell the citizens what they meant. The present information is like the preverbal blind persons describing an elephant'
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

RecycleMichael

A $100,000 salary would work out to $12 for a fifteen minute coffee break. I just wanted to help "shadows" with the higher math.
Power is nothing till you use it.

shadows

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 22, 2009, 03:18:10 PM
A $100,000 salary would work out to $12 for a fifteen minute coffee break. I just wanted to help "shadows" with the higher math.

If there is 52 weeks in a year less 2 weeks vacation equals 50 weeks a year at 40 hours a week or 2,000 hours.

100,000 divided by the 2,000 hours is equal to 50 or $50 dollars an hour.

These figures do not take in consideration paid holidays and other perks which further the cost of coffee breaks v production time.

Morning break and afternoon break @ 15 minutes each equates to 30 minutes or ½ hour daily at 50 dollars a hour or $25 dollars coffee break time which is more than many people have for food.

Appreciate the correction but you might try the TPS on if there is an update on math.
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

RecycleMichael

#11
Let me show what you wrote..."The 15 minute nonproductive coffee break cost the working poor of Tulsa $25 each in salaries they pay"

Pay attention to the word "each".
Power is nothing till you use it.

Red Arrow

Anyone who expects any employee, private or otherwise, to be productive 100% of the time is fooling themselves. A few breaks make us more productive the rest of the time we are working.
 

USRufnex

I think the point is that people who make over $100k shouldn't get any scheduled breaks.... and if they don't like it, the city should do internal hiring and save money by getting 4th graders to work in the IT dept.... I hear they'll work for Snickers Bars and an X-Box....

Can someone please re-phrase my response in the form of a haiku?

Thanks in advance.

/sarcasm

Red Arrow

Change Snickers for Three Musketeers and I'll be happy.  (Actually Snickers are OK too.)