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Started by Laramie, December 09, 2009, 11:36:55 AM

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FOTD

Quote from: okcpulse on December 12, 2009, 12:13:20 PM
Excuse me?  Devon is no sure bet?  Construction has already started, and the building is already paid for.   

And what gives you the idea that Devon is building on the public dole?  It is all privately funded.  Not sure what gave you that idea.


Ok. Public assistance enabled those Devon directors to allot stockholder value into real estate....

Face it, had Tim McVeigh not lit the match, downtown OKC would have never ignited to the degree it has....those first Federal funds for Murrah Memorial got the ball rolling. Now, watch how Fed funds help New Orleans retain a vibrant city core especially with all those poor people washed out of their population.

Hoss

Quote from: okcpulse on December 12, 2009, 12:13:20 PM
Excuse me?  Devon is no sure bet?  Construction has already started, and the building is already paid for.   

And what gives you the idea that Devon is building on the public dole?  It is all privately funded.  Not sure what gave you that idea.


Remember what happened to OneOK?  They scaled back the building.  Don't think there aren't contingencies for that in case the petroleum industry or NG industry goes south in a hurry.

FOTD

Quote from: Hoss on December 12, 2009, 02:23:00 PM
Remember what happened to OneOK?  They scaled back the building.  Don't think there aren't contingencies for that in case the petroleum industry or NG industry goes south in a hurry.

FYI....the Nat Gas is in a recessionary tale spin but nobody will tell you that out front and in the open....been a terrible year for producers.

warreng88

Quote from: FOTD on December 12, 2009, 01:24:23 PM
Face it, had Tim McVeigh not lit the match, downtown OKC would have never ignited to the degree it has....those first Federal funds for Murrah Memorial got the ball rolling.

For the record FOTD, the original MAPS was passed on Decemeber 14, 1993. The bombing of the Federal building happened on April 19, 1995 almost a year and a half after the tax was passed.

Townsend

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Project 180

http://www.okc.gov/news/2009_12/Project_180_intro.html


Edited to add that this is not part of MAPS but it's a nice thing to go along with it.

Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on December 12, 2009, 02:32:13 PM
FYI....the Nat Gas is in a recessionary tale spin but nobody will tell you that out front and in the open....been a terrible year for producers.

And not stellar for shareholders or companies who sell equipment to the natural gas industry either.  :(
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Laramie

FOTD?

Quote from: FOTD on December 12, 2009, 01:24:23 PM
Ok. Public assistance enabled those Devon directors to allot stockholder value into real estate....

Face it, had Tim McVeigh not lit the match, downtown OKC would have never ignited to the degree it has....those first Federal funds for Murrah Memorial got the ball rolling. Now, watch how Fed funds help New Orleans retain a vibrant city core especially with all those poor people washed out of their population.

Dude, Where did you get your information?  

I would love to see a link about what you just wrote!  MAPS had nothing to do with the Murrah Building Bombing.  

MAPS I was approved by the voters in 1993; the Murrah Building was bombed in 1995.

...Talking about stepping-off the turnip wagon, you must have boarded that little infamous yellow bus?  
"Think for yourself and let others enjoy the privilege of doing so too." ― Voltaire

FOTD

Quote from: Laramie on December 17, 2009, 01:14:18 PM
FOTD?

Dude, Where did you get your information?  

I would love to see a link about what you just wrote!  MAPS had nothing to do with the Murrah Building Bombing.  

MAPS I was approved by the voters in 1993; the Murrah Building was bombed in 1995.

...Talking about stepping-off the turnip wagon, you must have boarded that little infamous yellow bus?  


COWTOWNER! YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE TIMELINE. BUT DO NOT TELL ME THE MEMORIAL TO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM HAS NOT HELPED IN ATTRACTING TOURISTS TO OKC!

The long term picture in OKC is still cloudy. Who knows what your city officials will do to pirate funds for their own purposes in the future.....and can OKC keep up with all that differed maintenance? Looks like every time a renovation is needed it goes to the voters. That will not last forever.

okcpulse

Quote from: FOTD on December 17, 2009, 01:56:10 PM
COWTOWNER! YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE TIMELINE. BUT DO NOT TELL ME THE MEMORIAL TO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM HAS NOT HELPED IN ATTRACTING TOURISTS TO OKC!

The long term picture in OKC is still cloudy. Who knows what your city officials will do to pirate funds for their own purposes in the future.....and can OKC keep up with all that differed maintenance? Looks like every time a renovation is needed it goes to the voters. That will not last forever.

Tulsa isn't exactly a perfect city.  The constant bickering between city officials certainly has not elevated Tulsa has it?  There are may good qualities about Tulsa but it's not a perfect city.  No city is.  That's the reality.

And maybe OKC is on its 3rd iteration of MAPS, but the first MAPS encouraged PRIVATE developers to pour $3 billion of their own money into downtown.  Construction on the Devon Tower has begun.  Project 180 is kicking off.  Core To Shore will begin within the next several years (Core To Shore is not a public project).  I think Tulsa should extend Vision 2025 because there is still more potential to be unlocked in that city.  OKC is not trying to be better than other cities, OKC is only trying to tap into its own potential.
 

Laramie

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Quote from: FOTD on December 17, 2009, 01:56:10 PM
COWTOWNER! YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE TIMELINE. BUT DO NOT TELL ME THE MEMORIAL TO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM HAS NOT HELPED IN ATTRACTING TOURISTS TO OKC!

The long term picture in OKC is still cloudy. Who knows what your city officials will do to pirate funds for their own purposes in the future.....and can OKC keep up with all that differed maintenance? Looks like every time a renovation is needed it goes to the voters. That will not last forever.




FOTD:  Cowtowner?  Listen up HomeSkillet:  I don't know what your beef is with OKC; however, I sense that you had a bad experience in OKC because of your language (OKCshitty) and demeaner.

It's time for both cities to move on.  

Seeing your pic and the composition and content of your posts; I know you're not as dumb as you look!
"Think for yourself and let others enjoy the privilege of doing so too." ― Voltaire

FOTD

Quote from: Laramie on December 19, 2009, 12:46:20 PM



FOTD:  Cowtowner?  Listen up HomeSkillet:  I don't know what your beef is with OKC; however, I sense that you had a bad experience in OKC because of your language (OKCshitty) and demeaner.

It's time for both cities to move on.  

Seeing your pic and the composition and content of your posts; I know you're not as dumb as you look!


Yes. A lifetime of bad experiences with OKshitty....when a little boy, this devil asked the old man, "why do they have such good roads?" In other words, we are tired of getting the shaft up here from the legislature. They are a bunch of Neros while our school systems get melted down, our roads and everything else get second hand treatment. And it emanates from the State crapitol attitude that OKshitty deserves preferential treatment. Sorry, we just feel more in line with green country than cowtown.

Laramie

Quote from: FOTD on December 19, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
Yes. A lifetime of bad experiences with OKshitty....when a little boy, this devil asked the old man, "why do they have such good roads?" In other words, we are tired of getting the shaft up here from the legislature. They are a bunch of Neros while our school systems get melted down, our roads and everything else get second hand treatment. And it emanates from the State crapitol attitude that OKshitty deserves preferential treatment. Sorry, we just feel more in line with green country than cowtown.

Cowtown is Fort Worth, a very reputable city.  Oklahoma City is getting the Bricktown flavor!
"Think for yourself and let others enjoy the privilege of doing so too." ― Voltaire

warreng88

Quote from: FOTD on December 19, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
Yes. A lifetime of bad experiences with OKshitty....when a little boy, this devil asked the old man, "why do they have such good roads?" In other words, we are tired of getting the shaft up here from the legislature. They are a bunch of Neros while our school systems get melted down, our roads and everything else get second hand treatment. And it emanates from the State crapitol attitude that OKshitty deserves preferential treatment. Sorry, we just feel more in line with green country than cowtown.

Your school systems get melted down? So pass something like Maps for Kids. Your roads get second had treatment? Then pass a bond issue like our 2007 bond issue that will raise $835 million, $500 specifically for roads. Stop complaining about the problems and playing the ""Woah is me" card and be part of the solution.

Hoss

Quote from: warreng88 on December 20, 2009, 01:23:38 PM
Your school systems get melted down? So pass something like Maps for Kids. Your roads get second had treatment? Then pass a bond issue like our 2007 bond issue that will raise $835 million, $500 specifically for roads. Stop complaining about the problems and playing the ""Woah is me" card and be part of the solution.

Kinda funny how the OKC shills come out of the woodwork when we badmouth their city.  You guys have OKCTalk; why don't you stay there?

FOTD

Let's show OKshitty we have a better tax idea up here....

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TULSA, OKLAHOMA ENCOURAGING THE OKLAHOMA STATE LEGISLATURE TO TAX MARIJUANA TO FUND LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES:

WHEREAS, the sales tax base of the City is not sufficient to adequately fund police and fire;

WHEREAS, marijuana is a renewable resource which can generate increase funding of police and fire;

BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TULSA ENCOURAGING THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO CREATE THE REGULATORY INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO TAX MARIJUANA TO BENEFIT LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES. (read less)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TULSA, OKLAHOMA ENCOURAGING THE OKLAHOMA STATE LEGISLATURE TO TAX MARIJUANA TO FUND LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES:

WHEREAS, the sales tax base of the City is not sufficient to adequately fund police and fire;

WHEREAS, marijuana is a renewable resource which can generate increase funding of police and fire;

BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TULSA ENCOURAGING THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO CREATE THE REGULATORY INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY...  Type:Open: All content is public.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it OKshittians.