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..... I'm sorry y'all think 90% of scientific consensus on global warming is wrong....

I understand the arguments that the pro-global warming crowd resorts to overstating the facts, and being political about scientific evidence....

But, unlike Lord Crazypants, I don't recall Al Gore calling any of his opponents "Nazi Youth."

The "wrong" 10% have been right before, admittedly not often.

Real facts don't need to be overstated in the long run. 

[nathanm]

Remember the double digit inflation of the Carter years?

Which was mostly caused by the dissolution of Bretton Woods under Nixon and OPEC's fiddling with oil prices, along with the massive increase in overall employment that occurred when we went from most women not working to most women working, not anything Carter did.

Not that Carter did much, if anything, to deal with the problem, not that anything could have been done about it. In a free market with a floating currency, when you have more dollars chasing the same number of goods inflation is the only possible result.

[nathanm]

My God, you are STILL gravy training/mooching off of others to make some meaningless point. I mean, it's "don't look at me and my lack of military service, look over here at others who never served". That's absolute chickensh!t, especially when you call someone else a chicken hawk!

On the subject of five deferments, I am reminded of another vice president that had that many...Joe "I suddenly have asthma after five college deferments" Biden. But we will not talk about him even though he voted to authorize the Iraq war.

Thankfully, despite your fantasy that this is not the case, military service is not a prerequisite to participating in our political system. Nor is military service required for reasonable opinions. You can yell and scream about how you're better than the rest of us pigs, but you're not.

Why Rufnex even continues to engage you on this subject, I'll never figure out. The board would be better off if the rest of us could ignore that bit of spittle that seems to fly from your keyboard when you get on the subject of military service.

I just thank God that my many relatives who are veterans or who still serve today don't have your attitude. I'd never be able to enjoy a holiday meal.

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Not that Carter did much, if anything, to deal with the problem, not that anything could have been done about it.

Which is part of being Prez.  Sometimes you're dealt a bad hand, sometimes good.  We are all to quick to blame the Prez for the bad times and too quick to praise for the good, both of which may have happened almost regardless of what the Prez did.

[Conan71]

Greeeeed.  No, I didn't enlist.  I registered for the draft and seriously considered ROTC when in high school.
I got full scholarships from wealthy people to study music.

And, YES.  I can call Dick Cheney a chicken hawk.
It's a free country.

Al Gore served in the military..... so did John Kerry.... how 'bout you Conan?

..... I'm sorry y'all think 90% of scientific consensus on global warming is wrong.... you think there might be some sort of petroleum industry bias in your perspective?

I understand the arguments that the pro-global warming crowd resorts to overstating the facts, and being political about scientific evidence....

But, unlike Lord Crazypants, I don't recall Al Gore calling any of his opponents "Nazi Youth."

My military service record is irrelevant to my participation in this particular thread, but since you ask, I registered for Selective Service the first day I could after my 18th birthday and no I've never served a day in my life, and yes I come from a family of veterans.  I wear neither fact on my sleeve as I don't trade on it either way.

Also irrelevant is that Monckton using the term "Nazi youth" in a discussion comparing his credentials to Algore's on global warming.  Neither is a climatologist and if people wish to mock Monckton for being a journalist, it's entirely ironic that the de facto leader of the global warming movement is a journalist.  Or at least he was before going on the government dole and championing the causes of those who kept his campaign coffers full.

In case you haven't been reading the papers or the interwebs, Copenhagen is turning into a something between a cluster love and a total joke.

[guido911]

Thankfully, despite your fantasy that this is not the case, military service is not a prerequisite to participating in our political system. Nor is military service required for reasonable opinions. You can yell and scream about how you're better than the rest of us pigs, but you're not.

Why Rufnex even continues to engage you on this subject, I'll never figure out. The board would be better off if the rest of us could ignore that bit of spittle that seems to fly from your keyboard when you get on the subject of military service.

I just thank God that my many relatives who are veterans or who still serve today don't have your attitude. I'd never be able to enjoy a holiday meal.

Well thank goodness you are here to moderate an argument without invitation that has nothing to do with you. This is about a guy having his "reasonable opinion" that someone else that never served is a chickenhawk and my pointing out how hypocritical that is. Period. And by the way, usruf is an adult and does not need you or anyone else defending him so butt out band aid. 

[Hoss]

Well thank goodness you are here to moderate an argument without invitation that has nothing to do with you. This is about a guy having his "reasonable opinion" that someone else that never served is a chickenhawk and my pointing out how hypocritical that is. Period. And by the way, usruf is an adult and does not need you or anyone else defending him so butt out band aid. 

Your adolescence never ceases to amaze me...

[nathanm]

Well thank goodness you are here to moderate an argument without invitation that has nothing to do with you. This is about a guy having his "reasonable opinion" that someone else that never served is a chickenhawk and my pointing out how hypocritical that is. Period. And by the way, usruf is an adult and does not need you or anyone else defending him so butt out band aid. 

Thankfully, this being a public forum, I can respond to any post I desire and do not require your permission. If you'd like me to 'butt out,' you might make use of the private message function when you get into pissing matches with other people.

BTW, if and when Ruf or any of us others who haven't served in the military start calling for optional wars, you're more than welcome to call us chickenhawks, because that's exactly what we would be. Why you're so invested in defended people who haven't served by beating other people over the head with your service I'll never figure out.

And apparently you need a dictionary. This word, hypocritical, does not mean what you think it does. (Hint: Being hypocritical would be calling the non-servers chickenhawks while simultaneously calling for war)

[guido911]

Thankfully, this being a public forum, I can respond to any post I desire and do not require your permission. If you'd like me to 'butt out,' you might make use of the private message function when you get into pissing matches with other people.

BTW, if and when Ruf or any of us others who haven't served in the military start calling for optional wars, you're more than welcome to call us chickenhawks, because that's exactly what we would be. Why you're so invested in defended people who haven't served by beating other people over the head with your service I'll never figure out.

And apparently you need a dictionary. This word, hypocritical, does not mean what you think it does. (Hint: Being hypocritical would be calling the non-servers chickenhawks while simultaneously calling for war)

Hey, feel free to be this forum's official nose-wiper for posters that get their feelings hurt. I am having difficulty understanding this sentence, could you explain: "Why you're so invested in defended people who haven't served by beating other people over the head with your service I'll never figure out."  Who are the "defended people"?

[nathanm]

Hey, feel free to be this forum's official nose-wiper for posters that get their feelings hurt. I am having difficulty understanding this sentence, could you explain: "Why you're so invested in defended people who haven't served by beating other people over the head with your service I'll never figure out."  Who are the "defended people"?

Replace defended with defending. You're defending people who didn't serve who are being called chickenhawks. Which is odd, given your contempt for those who express an opinion on military matters who didn't serve

[FOTD]

He knew what you meant....

[guido911]

Replace defended with defending. You're defending people who didn't serve who are being called chickenhawks. Which is odd, given your contempt for those who express an opinion on military matters who didn't serve

I thought you meant "defending", but since that sentence was found in a post where you were chiding me for my poor use of language (something about a dictionary and the word "hypocrisy") I assumed that YOU would not make any grammatical mistakes in that very same post. I mean, talk about making a fool out of one's self. Can I borrow some of your verbiage? (Hint: Your attempt at being a smart a$$ is big FAIL)

[nathanm]

I thought you meant "defending", but since that sentence was found in a post where you were chiding me for my poor use of language (something about a dictionary and the word "hypocrisy") I assumed that YOU would not make any grammatical mistakes in that very same post. I mean, talk about making a fool out of one's self. Can I borrow some of your verbiage? (Hint: Your attempt at being a smart a$$ is big FAIL)

I dare say that a typing error is of a different sort than a deliberate misuse of a word in an attempt to confuse the issues.

[Red Arrow]

As long as we're off topic, I wish more people would pay attention to the differences among their, there, they're, where, wear and several other sound-alikes that I can't remember at the moment.

[Conan71]

As long as we're off topic, I wish more people would pay attention to the differences among their, there, they're, where, wear and several other sound-alikes that I can't remember at the moment.

Yeh, my to!