New Unemployment Claims Rise "Unexpectedly"

[Breadburner]

You take away from the experience everyone could have on here.

If one of us decides we don't want to put up with you you accuse us of running away.

Then we point out how bad you are for this forum and you back up.

All you do is go after people on here.  It harms the forum and we lose contributors because of you.

Let me grab you a beach towel......

[Gaspar]

Hmm, I haven't heard many people refer to Social Security as welfare before. Normally, I wouldn't bother to point this out, but I know Gaspar likes to use the word as an epithet.

SSDI=Disability insurance benefits.

She is disabled and unable to work.  This leaves her free to do real estate speculation and travel the country to democratic rallies.

The guy down the hall from me is a double amputee (diabetes).  He gets here at about the same time I do in the morning (7:00am), puts in a full day of work and goes home after 5pm.  Part of his salary goes to pay for this welfare hag.

It is what it is!

[nathanm]

You don't understand how SSDI works, do you?

[guido911]

You don't understand how SSDI works, do you?

Here's a FYI.

Social Security Disability Insurance pays benefits to you and certain members of your family if you are "insured," meaning that you worked long enough and paid Social Security taxes.

http://www.ssa.gov/disability/

Nate, please address Gaspar's point now that I have educated him (which of course I didn't since his understanding is fairly close to the quoted passage).

[nathanm]

Yeah, you proved my point. You have to earn the benefit, so calling it welfare is completely stupid.

[guido911]

Yeah, you proved my point. You have to earn the benefit, so calling it welfare is completely stupid.

I don't think its stupid at all. It's his opinion. And in that woman's case, according to Gaspar and some stories I have read, she made an end run of the SSDI qualification rules by transferring a significant asset by quit claim so she could paint herself as poor in order to game the system. That to me is the welfare mentality and why I have no problem with Gaspar's characterization.

Here's a source supportive of Gaspar's point.

http://elmoq.blogspot.com/2009/02/henrietta-hughes-is-just-another-obama.html

My only problem is the nexus between SSDI and the value of the property she quit claimed. As I understand SSDI, it doesn't matter if you are wealthy or not to qualify (income/wealth could impact the amount of the benefit--too lazy to look it up). Now if she was on SSI, which some internet sources indicate, that program is need based:

Supplemental Security Income pays benefits based on financial need.

My source above. So is medicaid.

[we vs us]

That to me is the welfare mentality and why I have no problem with Gaspar's characterization.

Sigh.

[heironymouspasparagus]

So, if she gamed the system - she gets $1,000 per month or $12,000 per year on average (average SDDI from Social Security website).  What a crime - yeah, it IS a very small shame.

Especially when compared to the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch gaming the system to the tune of over $35 million per year - a mere $3 million per month.  As is done millions of other times in this country by many of the 1%'ers.  Hence the fact that those richest 1%ers pay on average under 18% taxes while the rest of us get to pay 20% and more.  This is the very large shame.

What mentality does that represent??  Welfare, definitely.  Corporate Welfare of the most egregious type.  Just what the Republicontin's ordered from their paid lackeys in Congress.

*Sigh* is right.  There is not hope wevsus.  They just can't see the hypocrisy and the injustice due to the blinding by The Right.  (And that most definitely is NOT the correct - it IS The Right.)

[guido911]

Sigh.

Where's the sin in pointing out that people are ripping off our government? Sigh? You understand/excuse that sort of behavior at the taxpayers expense?

[guido911]

So, if she gamed the system - she gets $1,000 per month or $12,000 per year on average (average SDDI from Social Security website).  What a crime - yeah, it IS a very small shame.

Especially when compared to the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch gaming the system to the tune of over $35 million per year - a mere $3 million per month.  As is done millions of other times in this country by many of the 1%'ers.  Hence the fact that those richest 1%ers pay on average under 18% taxes while the rest of us get to pay 20% and more.  This is the very large shame.

What mentality does that represent??  Welfare, definitely.  Corporate Welfare of the most egregious type.  Just what the Republicontin's ordered from their paid lackeys in Congress.

And here we go.



Are you PWI?

[nathanm]

Where's the sin in pointing out that people are ripping off our government? Sigh? You understand/excuse that sort of behavior at the taxpayers expense?

Perhaps we should focus our rage on the investment bankers who ripped us off to the tune of a few hundred billion dollars. It's more fun to focus on the petty stuff, though.

[AquaMan]

I'll only say one thing and be gone. Go to the building downtown where food stamps, LIHEAP, unemployment, etc. are processed. Wait in line to talk to a SS employee out east. First make note of the parking lot and its auto salvage appearance. Be witness to the level of humanity displayed. Your remarks may then be received with some credibility. Be prepared for people to stare at you because you cannot hide your station in life no matter how hard you try. They will treat you with more dignity than you have referred to them.

[RecycleMichael]

I'll only say one thing and be gone. Go to the building downtown where food stamps, LIHEAP, unemployment, etc. are processed. Wait in line to talk to a SS employee out east. First make note of the parking lot and its auto salvage appearance. Be witness to the level of humanity displayed. Your remarks may then be received with some credibility. Be prepared for people to stare at you because you cannot hide your station in life no matter how hard you try. They will treat you with more dignity than you have referred to them.

Post of the year

[we vs us]

I'll only say one thing and be gone. Go to the building downtown where food stamps, LIHEAP, unemployment, etc. are processed. Wait in line to talk to a SS employee out east. First make note of the parking lot and its auto salvage appearance. Be witness to the level of humanity displayed. Your remarks may then be received with some credibility. Be prepared for people to stare at you because you cannot hide your station in life no matter how hard you try. They will treat you with more dignity than you have referred to them.

+1

[Townsend]

We should expect a picture or video in order to change the subject any time now.

Well put AquaMan.