Republican candidate calls opponent homosexual

[Townsend]

Defending them? I do not know about conan, but I was pointing out that there are nutjob commentators on the left

My apologies.

I consider all of them a waste of time and intellect.  When someone I know quotes one or agrees with them, I'm embarrassed for them.

They make things worse, period.

[azbadpuppy]

Defending them? I do not know about conan, but I was pointing out that there are nutjob commentators on the left (who were conveniently overlooked by Ms. "I'm not one sided")

They all suck, but we were having a discussion regarding the republican party, remember? I personally do not think the 'nutjob' commentators on the left are quite as dangerous as those currently screaming their scariness from the right, but that is ONLY my opinion. Regardless, this wasn't a comparison conversation.

[guido911]

They all suck, but we were having a discussion regarding the republican party, remember?

NO, wrong again--look at the title of the thread. We were talking about one republican candidate calling another a homosexual and you, again trying to be cute or clever, took the opportunity to change the subject and attack right wing talk radio while totaling ignoring that the left has their own idiot talkers. This is the same crap you did in another thread.

[azbadpuppy]

As if Olbermann, Matthews, Maddow and the like aren't an embarrassment either?  Maddow with her constant ramblings about the Christian Mafia and C-Streeters.  She's as bad as Lou Dobbs with her constant conspiracies.  I'd love to see Matthews take the DNC's skin flute out of his mouth for just a few seconds.

You apparently have fallen hook, line, and sinker for one-sided partisanship commentary if you think Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh etc. ad nauseum are the biggest problem facing the U.S. without considering how partisan hacks on the left are just as corrosive.  They must fit your paradigm better if you don't see that.  If America continues to show signs of moderating, all of these oafs will eventually find themselves out of a job if they don't espouse a less partisan viewpoint from the outer fringes of liberalism or conservatism and realize true bi-partisan ship which is best for our country lies in the middle.

Umm, we were having a Republican party discussion, thanks. I don't completely disagree with you about some of the people you mention, however that isn't what was being discussed, and I never said I did follow or believe what they had to say. You suuuuure are quick to the defense though.

And yes, I do think that people like Glen Beck should be put out to pasture for his violence inducing, corruptive, lying, hate speech. Its far more than divisive, its dangerous. My opinion. Sue me.

[Conan71]

Umm, we were having a Republican party discussion, thanks. I don't completely disagree with you about some of the people you mention, however that isn't what was being discussed, and I never said I did follow or believe what they had to say. You suuuuure are quick to the defense though.

And yes, I do think that people like Glen Beck should be put out to pasture for his violence inducing, corruptive, lying, hate speech. Its far more than divisive, its dangerous. My opinion. Sue me.

Quick to the defense of whom?  Do reading comprehension much?

[guido911]

Umm, we were having a Republican party discussion, thanks.

You have got to be kidding. You turn a thread about a drunken democrat senator into a discussion about Sarah Palin and you have the audacity to now go into a thread hijacking riff?

[azbadpuppy]

NO, wrong again--look at the title of the thread. We were talking about one republican candidate calling another a homosexual and you, again trying to be cute or clever, took the opportunity to change the subject and attack right wing talk radio while totaling ignoring that the left has their own idiot talkers. This is the same crap you did in another thread.

Wow- you are so defensive. Again wrong. Never changed the subject. That was done by Conan.

I was directly responding to this part of the OP's comment:

" Since when has "bizarre behavior and hate-filled speech" disbarred a Republican?  Could this be an indication of movement toward the middle, an indication that in Illinois the party will not be dragged further to the right by vocal nutjobs?  Much as I dislike the Republican agenda, it does not serve the country to have them go into a self-imposed exile.  Perhaps Brady is signaling a return to health and sanity."

You really have selective memory. And as far as the cheap shot at Palin in the other thread- you are absolutely correct. That was just too damn easy. Grab a sense of humor.

It is kind of alarming that you guys are so ready to defend these people.

[azbadpuppy]

Quick to the defense of whom? 

Your own ideologies apparently.

[Conan71]

Your own ideologies apparently.

What? That deeply partisan hacks who influence the mealy-minded of this country are all dangerous regardless of whose house organ they are playing? Nice read.

[azbadpuppy]

What? That deeply partisan hacks who influence the mealy-minded of this country are all dangerous regardless of whose house organ they are playing? Nice read.

And with that I couldn't agree with you more. See, and you thought we couldn't get along, didn't you? I do believe some bullies are meaner than others though. I guess your perspective all depends on which side of the playground you are standing on.

Sorry kids, gotta run. Mom's calling me for dinner.

[USRufnex]

What? That deeply partisan hacks who influence the mealy-minded of this country are all dangerous regardless of whose house organ they are playing? Nice read.

If you had your own tv or radio show, I'd consider you just as "partisan" as the rest of the political chattering class.
These are opinions.... it's opinion-based journalism.... kinda like Charles Krauthammer, only much more entertaining.

Strangely enough, I believe you'd agree with more of Michael Moore's positions than I do.

But you've been told it's all LIES and PROPAGANDA on the left.... so your version of "fair-and-balanced" is akin to the editorial page of The Daily Oklahoman.... conservative opinion on one side and the conservative critique of the perceived liberal bias on the the other side... yeah, both sides of the.... cough, cough..... story.... cough, cough....

I need to go back to pg 1 of this thread because I thought for a second we were actually talking about Illinois politics and I thought I'd post some pretty cool insights.... oh well.

[guido911]

I need to go back to pg 1 of this thread because I thought for a second we were actually talking about Illinois politics and I thought I'd post some pretty cool insights.... oh well.

You can thank the poster above your last for that.  As for Illinois politics, love to hear some involving the southern part of the state where I am from. Believe it or not, when I first became interested in politics, I supported Alan Dixon and Mel Price--2 democrats (I heard confession is good for the soul).

[USRufnex]

Maybe.

But as an Illinoisan for about 40 years, I think the more likely answer is that Illinois Republicans are a lot more moderate and pragmatic than Republicans, say, in Oklahoma or in Southern states. Horse-trading and compromising are common and even encouraged. By and large, Illinois voters want stuff to get done and demand that their lawmakers be a lot more cooperative and reasonable.

Also, Illinoisans have a low tolerance for people who are loud-mouthed ideologues. The Illinois GOP is still smarting over having that insane knucklehead Alan Keyes running for Senate a few years ago. He barely got 30 percent of the vote and was a profound embarrassment. The party doesn't want another loud-mouthed knucklehead running for office.

In short, this is Midwestern pragmatism at work.

I think this is a case where Martin crossed the line, and the state GOP simply isn't going to stand for it because voters won't, either. If it's a symptom of a movement emerging on a national level, I'm all for it. But I wouldn't count on it.

I don't see it quite so noble....... I believe the horse-trading tradition is due to the almost 50/50 split between pro-choicers and pro-lifers in the Illinois Republican Party... the best of that tradition was Jim Edgar...

I think the pro-choicers saw the writing on the wall.  They knew their party was headed to defeat in the senate campaign after the Jack Ryan divorce disclosures and tried to draft Mike Ditka... That is, before the moderate-Republican-powers-that-be (namely, Dennis Hastert and Judy Baar Topinka) realized they'd rather leave Alan Keyes holding the bag than have the second place finisher Jim Oberweis pi$$ off hispanic voters for generations for his immigration views which were to the right of Republican moderates and George W. Bush.....

http://www.vdare.com/gorak/immigration_idiocy.htm
"The GOP, once a powerhouse in the  Land of Lincoln, now makes the Three Stooges look like a precision drill team."

Wait a minute.  Mark Kirk is gay?  I thought if it played in Peoria....?
So, how's your gaydar, azbadpuppy?

[Conan71]

I don't see it quite so noble....... I believe the horse-trading tradition is due to the almost 50/50 split between pro-choicers and pro-lifers in the Illinois Republican Party... the best of that tradition was Jim Edgar...

I think the pro-choicers saw the writing on the wall.  They knew their party was headed to defeat in the senate campaign after the Jack Ryan divorce disclosures and tried to draft Mike Ditka... That is, before the moderate-Republican-powers-that-be (namely, Dennis Hastert and Judy Baar Topinka) realized they'd rather leave Alan Keyes holding the bag than have the second place finisher Jim Oberweis pi$$ off hispanic voters for generations for his immigration views which were to the right of Republican moderates and George W. Bush.....

http://www.vdare.com/gorak/immigration_idiocy.htm
"The GOP, once a powerhouse in the  Land of Lincoln, now makes the Three Stooges look like a precision drill team."

Wait a minute.  Mark Kirk is gay?  I thought if it played in Peoria....?
So, how's your gaydar, azbadpuppy?

Drop a few more names, Ruf, while pontificating out of your arse, come on, I know you can do it.  Don't forget Illinois' third Senator, Dick Lugar!

[USRufnex]

Lugar's from Indiana.  Bugger off.