Harry Reid Apologizes for Racist Comment re: Obama

[rwarn17588]

Like the right-wing version of FOTD.  He's the yin to his yang..or something like that.

It's kinda like point/counterpoint.

He and FOTD are probably lovers ... like Matalin and Carville, acting as hatchet-wielders for their respective parties.

[guido911]

Yep. Attack the messenger and don't even bother to address the points of a well-reasoned argument.

But if guido wants to defend the remarks of a segregationist who was so dumb that President Bush and Karl Rove pushed him out of the leadership post, let him. I'm sure history will be kind ... not.

You brought this messenger into this debate and this guy in defending Reid intentionally changed the wording of Reid's comment to soften the impact. There is no need to go any further to address his "well-reasoned argument." And to the Obama reach-arounders, you were a bit late to this thread this time.  Gettin sloppy.

[guido911]

More like people simply jumping to conclusions about what someone's comments meant.  You know that Sen. Lott was advocating separationist or racist comments for certain, exactly how?

Face it conan, Lott acted stupidly and Reid did not.

[azbadpuppy]

"Any suggestion that the segregated past was acceptable or positive is
offensive, and it is wrong. Recent comments by Senator Lott do not reflect the spirit of our country."- President George W. Bush.

Even Bush seemed to know what Sen. Lott meant by his remarks.

It seems some people here have a very selective memory on Lott's storied history with racial and civil rights issues.

Here's an article published in 1992 which outlines Lott's many statements, activities and involvements regarding his "embracing of all things Confederate":

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/208

It is lengthy, but some of the highlights are:

* In 1981, when he was lending his prestige as a member of the US Congress to an effort to preserve the tax-exempt status of Bob Jones University -- the notorious South Carolina college that was under fire for prohibiting interracial dating -- Lott insisted that, "Racial discrimination does not always violate public policy."
* Despite the fact that he represents the state with the largest percentage of African-American citizens in the US, Lott has throughout his career been an active supporter of the Sons of the Confederacy, a group that celebrates the soldiers who fought to defend the "right" of Mississippians to own African-Americans as slaves." Lott even appears in recruitment videos for the group.
* Speaking at a 1984 convention of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, Lott declared that "the spirit of Jefferson Davis lives in the 1984 Republican Platform."
* Lott gave the keynote address at a 1992 national executive board meeting of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a successor organization to the old white Citizens Councils, segregation-era groups the Southern Poverty Law Center refers to as "the white-collar Ku Klux Klan." The C of CC may have changed its name, but it remains a passionate "white racialist" group that condemns intermarriage, integration and immigration by non-whites.


Trent Lott is an avowed separatist, and any attempt to tie similarities between his actions and Reid's is purely partisan B.S.

Personally, I think Reid is a tool and should step down, but for many other reasons than this recent awkward and foolish statement.

I also think that the 'double-standard' allegations need to stop. It is embarrasing for the Republican party (and for all Americans for that matter) and further underscores the callous, unsympathetic stance that the GOP has taken in regards to civil rights issues.

[guido911]

The double standard extends to dem on dem:

http://www.breitbart.tv/the-last-time-a-white-democrat-commented-on-obamas-campaign-and-race/

[Conan71]

Okay, summarizing here, because I want to make sure I get this straight:

This IS different because Reid is a Democrat and our 1/2 black President gave him a pass.  Reid shouldn't be forced to step down over racially-insensitive comments even though that was the appropriate for a previous Senate GOP majority leader due to pressure from within his OWN party.

Reid should only step down for being an incompetent boob.

No wonder there is a racial divide in this country.  So long as liberals think they've got some sort of lock on racial tolerance and that all registered republicans are racially biased, racism will always have a place in America.

Does it bother anyone else that a doddering and senile former kkk leader is third in line for POTUS?

[azbadpuppy]

Okay, summarizing here, because I want to make sure I get this straight:

This IS different because Reid is a Democrat and our 1/2 black President gave him a pass.  Reid shouldn't be forced to step down over racially-insensitive comments even though that was the appropriate for a previous Senate GOP majority leader due to pressure from within his OWN party.

Reid should only step down for being an incompetent boob.

No wonder there is a racial divide in this country.  So long as liberals think they've got some sort of lock on racial tolerance and that all registered republicans are racially biased, racism will always have a place in America.

Does it bother anyone else that a doddering and senile former kkk leader is third in line for POTUS?

It's not different because Reid is a Democrat, it's different because comparing their statements, combined with the context and content, is like comparing apples to oranges. Reid, by all accounts is not a racist. Lott, by all accounts, is. No one said ALL Republicans are racist, but the one being used in this comparison certainly has shown by his actions that he is.

[guido911]

Does it bother anyone else that a doddering and senile former kkk leader is third in line for POTUS?

Umm, didn't you hear, Byrd has reformed himself, "white ni##ers" comment excluded of course.  Let me explain how this double standard thing works. If you are a republican and make any comments that can be construed as racist years ago, there is no reforming them. But be a dem that belonged to an organization that burnt churches of the African Americans population, murdered them, and committed who knows whatever atrocities, well that person becomes the "conscience of the Senate".

[Conan71]

Umm, didn't you hear, Byrd has reformed himself, "white ni##ers" comment excluded of course.  Let me explain how this double standard thing works. If you are a republican and make any comments that can be construed as racist years ago, there is no reforming them. But be a dem that belonged to an organization that burnt churches of the African Americans population, murdered them, and committed who knows whatever atrocities, well that person becomes the "conscience of the Senate".

My bad.  I keep forgetting: "That's different!"

Spank me.

Please.

[FOTD]

Umm, didn't you hear, Byrd has reformed himself, "white ni##ers" comment excluded of course.  Let me explain how this double standard thing works. If you are a republican and make any comments that can be construed as racist years ago, there is no reforming them. But be a dem that belonged to an organization that burnt churches of the African Americans population, murdered them, and committed who knows whatever atrocities, well that person becomes the "conscience of the Senate".

Oh jeezus....

You'd think by now there could be some civil discussion here on hate and racism....but that's too much to ask from this pity party.

Believe it or not, Barack and Michele Obama are changing the very structure that supports racism.

Even Guido will find "them" acceptable and even if it is in January of 2017 or later...

"you don't have to be black to be a ni##er." Dick Gregory 1964

[rwarn17588]

Spank me.

Please.

Forgive me if I demur.

[guido911]

Believe it or not, Barack and Michele Obama are changing the very structure that supports racism.

How?

signed:  Typical White Person

[FOTD]

How?

By erasing "that" view of being different.

Everything from gay marriage to an expanding global economy will set the stage for big attitude and social changes in the future. You'll be a minority yourself someday.  You'll be technologically miniaturized making it even more difficult to see what lies behind your moniker and the lines you draw in a virtual sand. And you'll have to be patient and watch this continuing evolution as racism gives way to class ism.

  The Obama's don't need to be seen going to church, or having cocktails, or walking the beach in the state he was born, or working an organic garden, or playing golf, or even attending a Broadway show for people to perceive them as authentic or to witness any of their actions and habits as different from the rest of our society.

[FOTD]

How?

signed:  Typical White Person Dork

Guido, why the need for you to puff yourself up?

[guido911]

I just love these quotes from those loving dems:

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/20-great-moments-in-liberal-bigotry