All city employees could face pay cuts

[sgrizzle]

Somehow the only department to make cuts in advance of this round, the fire department, gets cut the worst.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=48&articleid=20100113_11_0_Nonswo874759

[Breadburner]

O well.....Most if not all firemen have second jobs.....Not feeling to sorry for them......The whole 24 on 48 off has it's perks....

[shadows]

Tulsa is entering possibly years of money shortages as during the great depression many people walked away from their homes because they could not afford to pay the taxes on them.   Tulsa citizens have allowed their upper classes to out price their necessity to achieve "subject to their ability to perform their jobs". 

Who sets the wage scales for such persons?  The charter establishes the mayor's salary but who hung the mill stone around the neck of the working poor to pay such salaries as reported in the TW?  Does each department have a book of blank checks to make them out for any amount on a buddy, buddy basis.?

Requiring a four year college degree to be admitted to the Police Academy circumvents simple IQ testing as whether the person is qualified to be a police officer.  Gates dropped out in his second year of college and he has become most successful.  Edison dropped out of the fourth grade and he was successful.

Companies everyday are filing chapter 7&11 because the public has allowed the wages and perks to be in constant increase that they cannot meet. 

It is time to rewrite the charter and establish a wage scale, similar to Bacon/Davis Act with caps, that the citizens can afford to pay their public employees.  Within the next decade the pensions alone will require almost the total revenue unless we can get the WWlll started and that we are trying.           

[Conan71]

They had a great shot of Recyclemichael at the TARE board meeting on the morning news.  RM, did you ever dream recycling would make you such a major celebrity? 

[RecycleMichael]

What channel?

[Conan71]

What channel?

Six or Two.  Can't remember right now.

[Hawkins]

Bartlett has come out of the gate and stumbled to the ground.

Leadership lacking, sir.

The city union workers are going to refuse the budget cuts and sue to stop the layoffs, I can see this coming. Its not just the TPD we're talking about here, all city employees are union. The city is required to or will be forced into negotiations with them, because that's how it is supposed to work.

Unions exist to prevent ultimatums being made against employees, and that is exactly what Bartlett has done. Now I'm not a fan of unions myself, but these city employees who have been paying union dues out of each check they've earned throughout their careers are going to be expecting the union to put up a fight on their behalf.

By showing a lack of negotiating tact, Bartlett is going to make a bad situation much worse.

And yes, it no wonder at all why our former Mayor decided not to seek another term.

Our city government is a disaster.

[shadows]

In the last 225 thousand years man has proved that they cannot rule themselves under a republic form of governing.  In the last century even the countries we have tried to establish self-rule has had only a short life.  Within 200 years republic societies become so corrupt by forming little societies seeking to total control the groups.  Thus when a election for union representation has been certified these employees become as vultures demanding a greater share of the receipts.  Tulsa has three such groups each demanding a greater share of what the working poor is required to pay for presumed protection and services.  Privation at the present time seems a solution to the city problems which has been successful in other world societies. 

It is very easy to negotiate agreements between parties when neither have a vested interest in the ability for the working poor to pay.   Tulsa has allowed this to get out of control, escalating salaries beyond the city's income with over half of the people employed in Tulsa living in the suburbs outside the taxing structure.   Still these person enjoy the fruits of the labor of the city independent working poor in private industries.

Does any one have a copy of the contracts of what the working poor are required to budget for or is that a closed limited access with a $80 setup fee to get a copy from the computer department?

It seems we have loaded our basket and in the check out lane and we cannot pay the tab.  Is it not time to take some of the unnecessary items out until we have enough money to pay for them?