State of The Union

[heironymouspasparagus]

Obama mispoke about 50...er, uh,...pause....  7  states.....

Right up there with Mr. Nukular.  But at no where near the frequency...
Just curious, did any of you actually watch Bush during his 8 years?
Catch the drunken massage of Chancellor Merkel??

I bet Laura was thrilled!

[heironymouspasparagus]

I wonder where guido's "selective outrage" was when the last 28 years took us from $800 billion in national debt to $12 trillion??  All under Republican Presidents with a "mandate"??

How about it??  Any direct answers??  Or just more dissimulation.

[Hoss]

I wonder where guido's "selective outrage" was when the last 28 years took us from $800 billion in national debt to $12 trillion??  All under Republican Presidents with a "mandate"??

How about it??  Any direct answers??  Or just more dissimulation.

Watch it, or you'll likely get 'blacklisted' by Gweed like I have, never to have him respond to you at all.  That's in essence like taking your ball to go play somewhere else.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Isn't that what RWRE is all about??  (Right wing reactionary extremism).

[heironymouspasparagus]

I have asked a couple of direct, specific questions, and true to form, there is never a direct answer.

[Red Arrow]

I wonder where guido's "selective outrage" was when the last 28 years took us from $800 billion in national debt to $12 trillion??  All under Republican Presidents with a "mandate"??

How about it??  Any direct answers??  Or just more dissimulation.

I believe the GOP did not have control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate for all of those 28 years. Congress authorizes expenditures, the Prez approves or vetos.  Congress can over-ride.

[Gaspar]

I believe the GOP did not have control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate for all of those 28 years. Congress authorizes expenditures, the Prez approves or vetos.  Congress can over-ride.

. . . and did. 

"Heir" may not get too many replies. 

He/she is one of those rare posters that you need simply to allow time to complete a flow-of-consciousness.  We have a few of those. 

I expect great things from this one!

[guido911]

I wonder where guido's "selective outrage" was when the last 28 years took us from $800 billion in national debt to $12 trillion??  All under Republican Presidents with a "mandate"??

How about it??  Any direct answers??  Or just more dissimulation.

It gets a little boring slapping the likes of you around, particularly when you make so over the top false allegations with this being just another example. We have had nothing but Republican presidents for the past 28 years? I guess you forgot BJ Clinton or that the dems controlled Congress (and therefore the purse strings) through 1994. Funny that you picked today to complain about deficits because Obama announced that there will be a record deficit this year: $1.6 trillion. This will top the last deficit record set by Obama in 2009. Another in a long line of epic FAIL!

[guido911]

Obama mispoke about 50...er, uh,...pause....  7  states.....

Happy Cinco de Quattro!!!

To those 10,000 Kansas people killed by a tornado:

And to you Nittaly Lions fans:

[heironymouspasparagus]

You do realize that the budget ending Oct 1, 2009 was Bush I??  No?  That means Obama's first fiscal year started then.  So we are now 4 months into his first year spending.

You just make it too easy....slapping with BIG fluffy marshmallows!

The flip side of that is how tragically pathetic it is there is so much fiscal under-education exists in this country.  I submit it is a side effect of the exclusive Fox diet for avoiding news and adding indoctrination of dogma.

You do realize that Clinton was a net zero as far as deficits are concerned?  First 4 years there were deficits that were erased by the second four years.  Get out and READ once in a while.  Step away from the Fox!!  You brain cells can recover!!  We're pulling for you!!

And that while Congress starts the spending, the President has the veto??  And so from 1981 until 1994, there was vetoes to prevent huge deficits - oh, wait - NO there weren't.  So we went from about 800 billion to over 3 trillion.  Then during Bush I to about 4.5 trillion.  Then in the last 8 years, from there to 12 trillion.  Bush II was by far the worst.  And now we have more to put up with to try to fix the mess Bush left.  So sad.

There are a couple of major league tragedies here - first the fact that we have done this to our grandchildren and beyond for a major case of Imperialistic Voyeurism (Fighting and wasting of money and worst of all, our children in Iraq instead of the correct war in Afghanistan). 

And second the lost opportunities that could have been ours for this time.  Not just from tying up 12 trillion for cowboyism fantasies, but the complete abdication of so many new high tech markets that have been shown in the last decade to be serious economic growth opportunities.  Three examples; solar power, wind power, hybrid automotive technology.

NOTHING funny about deficits.  It is probably the single biggest tragedy of our generation today.  And tomorrow for our kids.

[guido911]

You do realize that the budget ending Oct 1, 2009 was Bush I??  No?  That means Obama's first fiscal year started then.  So we are now 4 months into his first year spending.

You just make it too easy....slapping with BIG fluffy marshmallows!

Oh that's right, now I remember. It was former President G.W. Bush that signed the $787B Stimulus bill and the $410B Omnibus bill. Again, FAIL.  

Where is the board in this forum with training wheels to help heir?

[Gaspar]

Oh that's right, now I remember. It was former President G.W. Bush that signed the $787B Stimulus bill and the $410B Omnibus bill. Again, FAIL.  

Where is the board in this forum with training wheels to help heir?

Let him go Gweed.  He's on a roll.

[heironymouspasparagus]

And who did the $1 trillion + bank bailout??

And you do realize that only a little over 1/3 of the real stimulus plan has actually been spent yet.  And even with that limited amount, the economy IS getting better.

While big bailout banks and insurance companies give out there $100 million dollar bonuses!  Of our money.  But that's what it's really all about to the Cheney/Rove/Murdoch crew, though isn't it...more for the top 2%!!

Gassy, did you get started on being ready for the recovery as it continues to pick up steam?  Hire some people.  Invest in some inventory?  Careful, there is a bucket full of lost opportunity out there for you if you don't!

What kind of drug induces that kind of coma???  Republi-contin, I guess.
GW signed the $550 billion Omnibus bill for 2008 (in Dec 2007, HR 2764 for any who can read), so I guess Obama signing a $410 billion one would be what... oh, yeah... better?  If you're not completely under the influence of Republi-contin.  And it was GW who did the trillion dollar bank bailout.  On top of his other 6 trillion deficits.

And again, no direct answers to direct questions.  And no relevant comment on the actual topic of the post.  Just ambiguation and disimulation.  Republi-contin wins again!! 

[heironymouspasparagus]

Guido, it's English.  I realize it is just similar enough to Okie to be difficult.  As native Okie, I struggle with it all the time.

Here is what I said;
I wonder where guido's "selective outrage" was when the last 28 years took us from $800 billion in national debt to $12 trillion??  All under Republican Presidents with a "mandate"??

Here is what Guido said;
It gets a little boring slapping the likes of you around, particularly when you make so over the top false allegations with this being just another example. We have had nothing but Republican presidents for the past 28 years?

NOTHING was said about having only Republican Presidents for the last 28 years.  What that means, in small, easy to understand words (as if you didn't really understand anyway) is that ALL those added deficits of the last 28 years were during the Reagan/Bush/Bush terms.  Clinton's term was a null event - as said before.  Hope it sinks in, not sure it can be made much simpler!

And here it is - another direct question in search of a direct answer;  Where is there a false allegation?  (Wanna bet about the direct answer?)

Disimulation and distortion all over again.

[heironymouspasparagus]

And since there was no comment on the REAL tragedies mentioned in the note, I guess we are to presume that those just really don't matter to the Cheney/Rove/Murdoch crew.

It's not too late.

How sad!