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« Reply #105 on: December 27, 2010, 03:51:17 pm » |
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The number one reason some beers never come to Oklahoma is lack of pasteurization, if a beer isn't pasteurized it needs to be constantly refrigerated which we don't allow.
Many of the beers we have in our local liqueur store are unpasteurized. |
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« Reply #106 on: December 27, 2010, 03:52:21 pm » |
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Coors, or at least their advertising, states that their beer is shipped cold, yet you will see it out on the floor in store displays at room temperature.
Speaking of home brewing, where's a good place to buy glass 5 gal carbouys in Tulsa without having to pay a home-brewer mark-up?
If you want to brew a 5 gal batch, get a 6 gal carboy (sp? it didn't like carbouy). For as many as I buy, I support my local sheriff homebrew store. |
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« Reply #107 on: December 27, 2010, 03:53:42 pm » |
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If you want to brew a 5 gal batch, get a 6 gal carboy (sp? it didn't like carbouy). For as many as I buy, I support my local sheriff homebrew store.
I buy mine at Home Depot! |
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« Reply #108 on: December 27, 2010, 03:55:00 pm » |
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I'm willing to bet that they want the option for it to be refrigerated in stores, but the only way to do that is to sell 3.2 and they refuse to make a special version just for that purpose.
For most micro-brewers, that wouldn't be cost effective, and it defeats the purpose a little. If I want 3.2 from a micro, I'll go to QT and buy that crappy Boulevard. I used to like Boulevard when I could only buy it in the liquor stores. Now, not so much. I'll drink Sierra Nevada, since Boulevard is almost a clone of them...or vice versa. |
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« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2010, 04:01:49 pm » |
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If you're out of beer on a Sunday, Boulevard is still better than Millercoorsbud Light. Most wheat beers aren't very high alcohol anyway. I just checked Marshall's at 4.7% by vol. 3.2% by weight is about 4% by vol. Maybe that's why Boulevard makes their wheat but not other varieties available in 3.2 for OK and maybe a couple other states. It's not a whole lot different.
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« Reply #110 on: December 27, 2010, 04:11:51 pm » |
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If you're out of beer on a Sunday, Boulevard is still better than Millercoorsbud Light. Most wheat beers aren't very high alcohol anyway. I just checked Marshall's at 4.7% by vol. 3.2% by weight is about 4% by vol. Maybe that's why Boulevard makes their wheat but not other varieties available in 3.2 for OK and maybe a couple other states. It's not a whole lot different.
But the point for me is I'm not a huge Wheat fan. I like their Bully Porter better. And German Pilsners. But, I see what you're saying. |
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« Reply #111 on: December 27, 2010, 04:20:59 pm » |
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But the point for me is I'm not a huge Wheat fan. I like their Bully Porter better. And German Pilsners. But, I see what you're saying.
I haven't seen anything but the wheat in 3.2%. Maybe I didn't look enough. I like several of their offerings. I always get a few 6 packs of Bob's 47 when it comes out. |
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« Reply #112 on: December 27, 2010, 05:58:23 pm » |
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Coors, or at least their advertising, states that their beer is shipped cold, yet you will see it out on the floor in store displays at room temperature.
Speaking of home brewing, where's a good place to buy glass 5 gal carbouys in Tulsa without having to pay a home-brewer mark-up?
Surely some of the water cooler places still use glass.. Coors isn't supposed to be stored warm at any point in its life cycle. Too bad the salesmen, who are generally the ones to set up displays and monitor such things, aren't listening. Now that I think about it, why do I care? It's Coors. I only drink that at work... |
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« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2010, 06:51:35 pm » |
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Surely some of the water cooler places still use glass..
Coors isn't supposed to be stored warm at any point in its life cycle. Too bad the salesmen, who are generally the ones to set up displays and monitor such things, aren't listening. Now that I think about it, why do I care? It's Coors. I only drink that at work...
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« Reply #114 on: December 28, 2010, 08:54:14 am » |
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I also don't see the liquor stores losing this battle so put me in the refrigeration camp. Also, I would like to see legislation passed that would allow the Oklahoma breweries to sell their own product, similar to the legislation that was passed within the past couple of years for wineries.
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« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2010, 09:09:59 am » |
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I also don't see the liquor stores losing this battle so put me in the refrigeration camp. Also, I would like to see legislation passed that would allow the Oklahoma breweries to sell their own product, similar to the legislation that was passed within the past couple of years for wineries.
And get rid of all that BS that keeps me from ordering wine to my door. |
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« Reply #116 on: December 28, 2010, 09:44:56 am » |
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The compromise here is to allow high point beer and wine in grocery stores but to make up that loss to the local liquor stores with allowing them to refrigerate and sell high profit mixer and barware items and then also to change the franchising law so that we would have normal mass market beer brands in liquor stores like Budweiser and Coors. The only businesses that would be hurt by all these changes would be big liquor distributors and they aren’t very friendly to small local businesses anyway.
The small local liquor store business would change, but it doesn’t have to be hurt.
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« Reply #117 on: December 28, 2010, 10:04:18 am » |
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Swake, that's a very good compromise. As it is now, there's a few liquor stores who have keg businesses adjacent where they also sell 3.2. That would be win for even smaller shops.
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« Reply #118 on: December 28, 2010, 10:46:35 am » |
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The compromise here is to allow high point beer and wine in grocery stores but to make up that loss to the local liquor stores with allowing them to refrigerate and sell high profit mixer and barware items and then also to change the franchising law so that we would have normal mass market beer brands in liquor stores like Budweiser and Coors. The only businesses that would be hurt by all these changes would be big liquor distributors and they aren’t very friendly to small local businesses anyway. The big liquor distributors have lobbyists, and the mass-market beers actually like the 3.2 arrangement in Oklahoma because they see it as more volume sales. Would take a miracle to change this. Now if there was something to light the fuses of constituents likely to support this... |
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« Reply #119 on: December 28, 2010, 11:11:23 am » |
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Just my $.02, until OK liquor laws are changed and or some one files an antitrust suit against the existing distributors, I don't think much will change. Doesn't the current liquor dist take care of both bars and Liquor stores? It may not be a "monopoly" but it sure smells like one and has for as long as I can remember.
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