joe mogul pizza

[DowntownDan]

The back alley entrance concept sounds like a cool idea.  Sounds like Rendezous in Memphis.  It's entrance is in an alley and is fantastic bbq.  Looking forward to this venture.

[nathanm]

Also, we'll be the best place in town to catch live blues music. We'll be open late night, have a cool back alley entrance and a back patio that we'll share with The Max and Joe Momma's. Also, look for some cool upgrades to the alley that runs between 1st and 2nd street in the near future.

That sounds fabulous!

[Quinton]

Beef ribs ?

[Conan71]

The back alley entrance concept sounds like a cool idea.  Sounds like Rendezous in Memphis.  It's entrance is in an alley and is fantastic bbq.  Looking forward to this venture.

That was my first impression as well, though I have to say, I'm not as enamored with Rendezvous' food as others seem to be.  It's good, just not on my top 10 list of 'Que places I've visited.

[SXSW]

The Phoenix Cafe concept at 6th & Peoria sounds really cool.  That could be just the jumpstart that area needs.

[restored2x]

I recently moved downtown (last December), and am a great fan of the Blues. Blake, if you get live Blues downtown - I think you'll have a hit on your hands (like all the other stuff you've done!). The last true venue for blues was Joey's Home of the Blues, way out at the south end of Peoria. I look at listings every week trying to find live blues. Cimmarron is the only consistent blues bar - but it is at 28th and Memorial. I can walk to your blues joint.

Tip: Allow smoking. Blues lovers dig the misic, but will be hesitant to have to go outside to fire one up and miss the music. Not very PC - but definitely a factor.

Tip: Bring in Anthony Gomes. That guy can play, and still plays small venues.

Extra Special Tip: Next time I see you, which will probably be at JM for lunch with sgrizzle, I have a great idea for you to contemplate.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Tulsa used to have a trolley - until they drank the GM bus/automobile Kool-Aid and got rid of all of them.

[Red Arrow]

Tulsa used to have a trolley - until they drank the GM bus/automobile Kool-Aid and got rid of all of them.

Used to have 2 trolley companies plus the trolley to Sand Springs.

Don't forget Firestone and Standard Oil.  They helped.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Yeah, but GM was the point company leading the way.  And they had the court events that proved it.


This whole "Blue Dome" district stuff is bizarre (lame - kind of like renaming 15th street "Cherry Street").  Pretentiousness wrapped in self-importance, doused with a splash of outright goofiness.  "Blue Dome" is the old Veteran's Bar.  Before that a gas station.  Run down, ragged out heap of brick and concrete.  Cute architecture, but not any more special than any of the other old buildings in downtown (most of which were torn down for urban renewal.)  Well, we just have to have "special places" to pique the interest and imagination, don't we?  Or maybe the loss of all those other buildings makes the remaining ones more precious??

[Conan71]

Yeah, but GM was the point company leading the way.  And they had the court events that proved it.


This whole "Blue Dome" district stuff is bizarre (lame - kind of like renaming 15th street "Cherry Street").  Pretentiousness wrapped in self-importance, doused with a splash of outright goofiness.  "Blue Dome" is the old Veteran's Bar.  Before that a gas station.  Run down, ragged out heap of brick and concrete.  Cute architecture, but not any more special than any of the other old buildings in downtown (most of which were torn down for urban renewal.)  Well, we just have to have "special places" to pique the interest and imagination, don't we?  Or maybe the loss of all those other buildings makes the remaining ones more precious??

Man you are on a roll.  It's no different than naming entertainment and dining districts in other areas like Lo-Do, Deep Ellum, Westport, SoHo, etc.  What is so pretentious about that?  That and the Brady district (named for a racist if you believe your hippie in spirit FOTD) are about the last of the good red brick districts in town.  It's got a cool vibe and for many of us who watched the gradual drain on downtown then the long stagnation in redevelopment, it's a dream come true.

Lighten up you old codger

[heironymouspasparagus]

LOL, LOL, LOL.  Thought that might get some reaction.

I spent my early life downtown and have always wanted it to be 'revived' - way before it was "cool".  It had/has way too much very good stuff to do the things to it that have been done in the name of "progress".  Now, there seems to be some actual progress.  (It IS pretentious to name 'districts'.)  Upper East Side.  Lower East Side.  Bowery.  All 'cutesy' little things that we as humans seem to have to indulge in.

Union Station would have made that wonderful art deco museum that The Artist has talked about.  But should have been done 30 years ago!  I guess Tulsa is STILL about 3 decades behind me.  They were just barely starting to fix the water system with Patty Eaton (no thanks to John Thomas for running it into the ground!) when we should have been doing all the stuff that is happening now.

May actually have to go eat some pizza this weekend.  Is JoeMomma's as good as Shotgun Sam's??

Still wish they had done an actual architectural design instead of just crashing an alien spaceship for the arena!

And yeah, Brady was a racist.  And yet, we still have his heritage alive and well in Owasso in the form of Randy Brogdon.

[Red Arrow]

Tulsa used to have a trolley - until they drank the GM bus/automobile Kool-Aid and got rid of all of them.

See map at Michael Bates' site.

http://www.batesline.com/archives/2009/12/tulsa-streetcar-and-interurban-l.html

[Kenosha]

How do you feel about Oklahoma Joe's opening up in Brady?  I have to say, if his 'cue is anywhere near as good as the one in KC...it's going to be tough to beat.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I think that is a different Joe's.  Jeff Stehney (sp?) versus Blake Ewing.


But if you want bar-b-que - well you ain't gonna get it in Tulsa today.  You have to go to Oologah.  Black Jaxx.