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Started by Gaspar, March 23, 2010, 07:51:49 AM

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Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 24, 2011, 01:12:57 PM
I would love to know what kind of cars they were!  If you share that, I am going to go find one to buy and drive.  Given my generally anarchistic nature, I love the possibility of breaking the laws of physics!  Perpetual motion is another one of my favorites.

1966 Buick Skylark GS with 401 nailhead engine, 4bbl Carter AFB, Superturbine 300 tranny, 2.93:1 differential.

Family car was 1963 Buick LeSabre w/401, 4bbl, Dynaflow tranny, I think the differential was 3.23:1

Be sure to average your trips over thousands of miles.  I got the '63 down to 6 mpg around town occasionally.  Mostly around town the GS got 11 on DX gas and 13 on Texaco.  DX gas gummed up the carb too.

Edit:  Both cars started to get lower gas mileage over 70 mph.  65 mph was the sweet spot for the GS, 65 to 70 for the LeSabre
 

heironymouspasparagus

The 66 would get about 13 or 14 max.  That tranny was a kind-of 'Powerglide' with variable stators, so it got slightly better mileage than Powerglide (which got 10).  The big engine - no way it ever got 17 at 65 or 55.  Even the 340 wouldn't do quite that.  Yeah, the 4 barrel gets slightly better than two barrel would if you keep your foot out of it, but not that much.

63 LeSabre - we had a 64 just like that.  Then I had a 65 Wildcat.  All very cool cars.  Lots of room and smooth to drive.  Plus I could always get at least 5 in the trunk to get into the Admiral Twin.  Sometimes 6.  Dynaflow was another sort of two speed that was kind of sort of similar to Turboglide/Powerglide (Chevy) - in that they kind of had two speeds.  I can remember riding in a friends - I think it was 61 or 62 - where you would really get the engine wound up before shifting to second.  On the Buicks it was pretty quiet, but still wound up.  Kind of a quiet-noisy.  Pontiacs had something similar that had the nickname "Slim Jim".  Never knew why.

Dynaflow was very similar to the Turboglide used in 1961 Chevy (with 283 V8).  Got 7 to 8 mpg in town and MAX of 12 on highway.  I put over 40,000 miles on the 61 Chevy version of that as a kid.  Good thing gas was about .26 per gallon!  But as far as "hot rodding" - forget it.  The 283 would not go there.

Well, I guess I won't look for one of those - been there, done that.  I think I will start looking for another 65 Buick Wildcat.  Or maybe a Riv.





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Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 24, 2011, 10:13:18 PM
The 66 would get about 13 or 14 max.  That tranny was a kind-of 'Powerglide' with variable stators, so it got slightly better mileage than Powerglide (which got 10).  The big engine - no way it ever got 17 at 65 or 55.  Even the 340 wouldn't do quite that.  Yeah, the 4 barrel gets slightly better than two barrel would if you keep your foot out of it, but not that much.

63 LeSabre - we had a 64 just like that.  Then I had a 65 Wildcat.  All very cool cars.  Lots of room and smooth to drive.  Plus I could always get at least 5 in the trunk to get into the Admiral Twin.  Sometimes 6.  Dynaflow was another sort of two speed that was kind of sort of similar to Turboglide/Powerglide (Chevy) - in that they kind of had two speeds.  I can remember riding in a friends - I think it was 61 or 62 - where you would really get the engine wound up before shifting to second.  On the Buicks it was pretty quiet, but still wound up.  Kind of a quiet-noisy.  Pontiacs had something similar that had the nickname "Slim Jim".  Never knew why.

Dynaflow was very similar to the Turboglide used in 1961 Chevy (with 283 V8).  Got 7 to 8 mpg in town and MAX of 12 on highway.  I put over 40,000 miles on the 61 Chevy version of that as a kid.  Good thing gas was about .26 per gallon!  But as far as "hot rodding" - forget it.  The 283 would not go there.

Well, I guess I won't look for one of those - been there, done that.  I think I will start looking for another 65 Buick Wildcat.  Or maybe a Riv.

I put over 120,000 miles on that 66 GS and calculated the gas mileage at each fill up.  I wrote it on the credit card receipts, now long gone. I carried a circular slide rule in the car. I really don't care if you believe it or not.  Maybe the Wildcat or Riveria GS wouldn't have topped 14 mpg but the Skylark was a bit smaller and lighter, same size as a GTO, 442, or Chevelle 396.

I also had a 1969 GS 350 (350 cid engine, TH350 trans).  It got about the same gas mileage as the '66 with a bit less performance.

The Dynaflow (Actually called a Twin Turbine by 1963) was a manually selectable 2 speed behind a fancy torque converter.  At least in the Buick version, if you selected D, it started from a stop with no planetary gear reduction (Edit: Except in the torque converter between the turbines.) and used only the torque multiplication from the torque converter.  If you manually selected L, it had 1.82 planetary gear reduction behind the torque multiplication from the torque converter. "The transition through the various ratios of torque multiplication is smooth and devoid of steps or changes since it is accomplished without the use of selective gears."  (From the 1963 Buick Chassis Service Manual, page 5-7.  Not Chiltons etc.).  The switch the pitch action of the stator confused some drivers into thinking it was shifting gears.  The family car before the '63 was a 1954 Buick Special.  That Dynaflow didn't have switch the pitch and was a real dog off the line with only 264 cid and under 200 HP. It was, however, happy to sit all day long at 60 mph and about 12 mpg.  I thought the Chevy version was around 1957 or so and called Powerflo but I'm not certain about that.

Gas mileage on the '63, surprised me too since it never got more than 12 back east.  I guess the gearing and specific fuel consumption of the 401 were just loaded best at speeds around 65 to 70.  It repeated itself on trips to OKC, back to Philly and others.  Again, I don't care if you don't believe me.

For all the cars mentioned, "around town" was not stop and creep.  It was SE Tulsa, trips to TU etc.  Highway mileage was get on the interstate and keep going.

Edit: Looks like the Chevy was Turboglide.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboglide
 

Townsend

So apparently if you smear yourself with dynaflow and turboglide you will protect yourself from Obamacare?  Smear liberally or conservatively?

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on January 25, 2011, 07:48:48 AM
So apparently if you smear yourself with dynaflow and turboglide you will protect yourself from Obamacare?  Smear liberally or conservatively?

If you use AstroGlide, Obamacare will slide right by!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Townsend on January 25, 2011, 07:48:48 AM
So apparently if you smear yourself with dynaflow and turboglide you will protect yourself from Obamacare?  Smear liberally or conservatively?

I'm conservative and have always been a Buick person so I would say Dynaflow Conservatively.
 

heironymouspasparagus

Chevy was the Turboglide.  Crappy transmission.  Powerglide was the Chevy "two speed" that was a great little transmission, just no mileage due to the gearing.  Lots of racers used them in 60's, built up.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

#247
Well, apparently there are now well over 700 waivers given from Obamacare involving nearly 2.2 million workers. Lots of unions in this list. just sayin...

http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved_applications_for_waiver.html
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

#248
A Federal Judge just ruled the entire Obamacare program UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

More to come. . .

Moments ago a Federal Judge in Florida ruled the entire program (not parts) unconstitutional.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

His ruling:
". . .Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void."
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on January 31, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
His ruling:
". . .Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void."


Huzzah!!! They'll stop charging my tanning place extra tax and I won't have to pay extra!!!

oh, and all those kids under 26 that could finally be insured under their parents for the last few weeks?  F' 'em.

Gaspar

The full text of the decision from Federal Judge Roger Vinson is not available yet, but according to reporters who've seen the decision, he's ruled the entire Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act unconstitutional. The ruling favors of the 26 state attorney generals challenging the law. The judge ruled the individual mandate that requires all Americans to purchase health insurance invalid and, according to the decision, "because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void."

Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/breaking-federal-judge-rules-obamacare-unconstitutional#ixzz1Ce7ptenW


From The Examiner
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

You cannot force someone to purchase something as a condition of being a US Citizen.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson in Pensacola, Florida, declared the law unconstitutional today in a 78-page opinion. He said the law's provision requiring Americans over 18 to obtain insurance coverage exceeded Congress' powers under the commerce clause of the U.S Constitution.

"Regardless of how laudable its attempts may have been to accomplish these goals in passing the act, Congress must operate within the bounds established by the Constitution," the judge wrote. "This case is not about whether the Act is wise or unwise legislation. It is about the Constitutional role of the federal government."

Off to the Supreme Court. . .
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

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