Tea Party Crashers

[guido911]

Huffington Post posts most outrageous tea party signs or something:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/16/tea-party-signs-the-most_n_539770.html#comments

Those folks over there must be pu$$ies of the highest order.

[Gaspar]

Your post is a soiled rhetorical question based on extremes instead of looking at the abuse of those at the top.
Perhaps a better question would be why would an exec get 100 times the pay of an employee who comes up with a major marketing idea? Those tea partiers average $50,000 a year in government hand outs and personal investments make more than your man swabbing toilets while they run around Sarah Palin rallies in their RV's. It's a wild world.

I got some of that, I think. . .

Are you saying that those on the top are abused, or abusers?

I don't get the $50,000 a year in government hand outs though.  CBS said that most of the Tea Partiers are employed or retired.

If someone comes up with a major marketing idea they should be rewarded for it, and if they feel that they are not rewarded enough, they should take that great innovation and market it on their own.  That's how this country works, God bless it!

When the bowl gets too hot you end up burning too much resin and your posts come off a bit disjointed.

[guido911]

A crasher gets exposed:

[fotd]

I got some of that, I think. . .

Are you saying that those on the top are abused, or abusers?

I don't get the $50,000 a year in government hand outs though.  CBS said that most of the Tea Partiers are employed or retired.

If someone comes up with a major marketing idea they should be rewarded for it, and if they feel that they are not rewarded enough, they should take that great innovation and market it on their own.  That's how this country works, God bless it!

When the bowl gets too hot you end up burning too much resin and your posts come off a bit disjointed.

Abusers.

Not true if you work in a corporation. Nice try though....POMPOUS GASSIOUS.

[fotd]

Huffington Post posts most outrageous tea party signs or something:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/16/tea-party-signs-the-most_n_539770.html#comments

Those folks over there must be pu$$ies of the highest order.

It's so cool the GOP brought back their "dirty trick" goons.

[Red Arrow]

Why would the guy swabbing toilets be worth more than the head of accounting, fotd? What about my concept is so wrong or foreign?

Want to use a dirty toilet?

[Cats Cats Cats]

If someone comes up with a major marketing idea they should be rewarded for it, and if they feel that they are not rewarded enough, they should take that great innovation and market it on their own.  That's how this country works, God bless it!

As pointed out previously.  You obviously have no clue how a corporate job work as far as who owns your ideas/advancements/information.  Hell, if you make a "great innovation" off the clock but related to your field at work.  The best you can hope for is just spending all your money on lawyers.

[nathanm]

As pointed out previously.  You obviously have no clue how a corporate job work as far as who owns your ideas/advancements/information.  Hell, if you make a "great innovation" off the clock but related to your field at work.  The best you can hope for is just spending all your money on lawyers.

That's one of the bigger advantages of either being a contractor rather than a direct employee or working as an hourly employee rather than being paid on salary.

But yeah, all the employment contracts I've perused of late include a clause assigning any IP the employee creates at the employer's site to the employer, as well as any IP the employee creates that is related to the business of the employer no matter where the work is created.

Since just about any idea an employee might have related to most businesses is now patentable, at the very least as a business method, the contracts are incredibly wide-ranging.

[Conan71]

I guess I live in an alternate universe. I out-earned my boss the last three years and he's ecstatic about it. Subsequently it allows him to give himself a raise each year. I may bring in the revenue but he still must manage people and make decisions which keep anywhere from 10 to 15 people employed. We don't begrudge each others earnings. 

[Red Arrow]

If you are doing work related to your salaried job, you may want to find out if your employer considers it a conflict of interest.

There are a lot of mixed feeling regarding intellectual rights in engineering.  On one hand, my mind thought something up but I am being paid my salary to do that.  Sometimes I am paid my salary just to do things that are not patentable.  Engineering salaries would probably be lower if engineers demanded a piece of any patent with their name on it.

[guido911]

That's one of the bigger advantages of either being a contractor rather than a direct employee or working as an hourly employee rather than being paid on salary.

That's what I have been doing (contractor) for nearly a year now. Incredible flexibility and I work for myself. And Conan, you are in a very enviable position (almost symbiotic), which is quite common in the medical field.

[bugo]

Yeah that individual liberty and small government stuff is pretty loony...

If they value individual liberty and small government then where the eff were they during the Bush administration?  Lying hypocrites. 

[guido911]

If they value individual liberty and small government then where the eff were they during the Bush administration?  Lying hypocrites. 

They were watching Bush protesters mimicking the Iraqi shoe thrower while now such disrespect of the office of president is unAmerican and damaging of his/her legitimacy. Effing hypocrites.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/19/bush-protest-shoes-thrown_n_159223.html

[heironymouspasparagus]

And again, the point is completely missed or deliberately ignored.

Let's set aside for a moment the discussion of whether these guys actually "earn" the money.  The bigger point is that most of us (maybe Gaspar and Conan are so far above this they can't see the little ants from their altitude) have to pay in the 35, 40 or even 45% of their income as taxes, where the guy in the example pays 15.9%.

That is the point, to spell it out literally so even the most "under the influence" of Republicontin can understand.

Michael Jeffries of Abercrombie and Fitch would be another good example.  $71 milliion in compensation in a year when the company made $245,000.  Thousand, not million.  That was down from the previous years when they did make about 250 million and 400+million. 

So terrible to have to pay a whopping 15% on all that!!  What a shame.  I guess I can afford to keep up my 40% so he can have the life of luxury he is accustomed to...after all, I am not used to that lifestyle, so won't even know the difference.


What may well be an even bigger travesty here is that in addition to directly subsidizing these guys on their "income tax", we also get to make up the difference for the income tax the company evades by deducting those big numbers from income.

Boom!  Bam!!   Double whammy!

[Cats Cats Cats]

High Earner taxes aren't as bad as they claim (comparitively).  I don't have a lot of long term capital gains or dividends but I still paid less on the last 35% of my income than I did the 50% before that. There are however exclusions to some of the deductions.  But the beauty of it is, the more you make the less it matters.  it is the people that make just over that get screwed.  If I only had some huge capital gains and dividends like most at the very top and I would be in tax heaven.  Couple hundred million to go.  When you consider the top 400 average about 17% effective tax rate and suckers like Obama who make money from books instead of investments pay 33%.  Shows you where your earnings should be coming from!  I suggest everybody make a couple hundred million so you can pay low taxes too.