Sand Springs Microbrewery

[Nik]

My wife heard from a SS cop today that this has already died. Not surprised at all. This town has no development activity of any kind beyond IHOP and Billy Sims.

[SXSW]

That is too bad, this sounded cool.  What makes Owasso and Bixby so much more attractive than Sand Springs to new development?  Sand Springs is closer to downtown, close to Lake Keystone and Skiatook, and is surrounded by forested hills with the Arkansas River right next to it.  Many of the hilly neighborhoods have fantastic views.  It should have a lot more growth than it does.

[Red Arrow]

That is too bad, this sounded cool.  What makes Owasso and Bixby so much more attractive than Sand Springs to new development?  Sand Springs is closer to downtown, close to Lake Keystone and Skiatook, and is surrounded by forested hills with the Arkansas River right next to it.  Many of the hilly neighborhoods have fantastic views.  It should have a lot more growth than it does.

I think a lot of those hills have rock just a bit under the dirt.  Not positive about that though.  Bixby is mostly river bottom dirt, easy to move around. Not sure about Owasso.

[Ibanez]

That is too bad, this sounded cool.  What makes Owasso and Bixby so much more attractive than Sand Springs to new development?  Sand Springs is closer to downtown, close to Lake Keystone and Skiatook, and is surrounded by forested hills with the Arkansas River right next to it.  Many of the hilly neighborhoods have fantastic views.  It should have a lot more growth than it does.

I think a lot of it has to do with the "leadership" in Sand Springs. They aren't exactly forward thinkers. In fact many of them still haven't embraced talkies.

[waterboy]

I was surprised to see that SS showed up with a healthy growth of population in the last numbers published. I think they were third in % growth behind Jenks & Owasso. I would have guessed flat.

It is still a pretty small town in mindset and blue collar in demographics. Perhaps the closing of the foundry will change all that. No doubt the countryside is the most attractive in the area.

[Conan71]

I was surprised to see that SS showed up with a healthy growth of population in the last numbers published. I think they were third in % growth behind Jenks & Owasso. I would have guessed flat.

It is still a pretty small town in mindset and blue collar in demographics. Perhaps the closing of the foundry will change all that. No doubt the countryside is the most attractive in the area.

Without a doubt.  I love riding in the area.

[RecycleMichael]

The project is back on...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=298&articleid=20101108_298_0_SANDSP56558

[cannon_fodder]

As I understand it:

If you brew beer, you cannot sell beer on site > 3.2

And all intoxicating beverages (= over 3.2) have to be sold from the manufacturer, to a wholesaler, to a distributer, and them to a retailer/license holder.  So to get the beer from a brewer to a brewpub next door they have to ship it off site, sell it to the wholesaler, then the distributer, then buy their own beer back at a mark up and have it shipped back to them.

For your safety (in no way because of blue laws or lobbiest for irrelevant industries).

[SXSW]

As I understand it:

If you brew beer, you cannot sell beer on site > 3.2

And all intoxicating beverages (= over 3.2) have to be sold from the manufacturer, to a wholesaler, to a distributer, and them to a retailer/license holder.  So to get the beer from a brewer to a brewpub next door they have to ship it off site, sell it to the wholesaler, then the distributer, then buy their own beer back at a mark up and have it shipped back to them.

For your safety (in no way because of blue laws or lobbiest for irrelevant industries).

Looks like it will be like Coach's brewery in Norman.  3.2 beer brewed and sold onsite. 

Wish Marshall's could be a brewpub, but wouldn't want to see it 3.2.  A larger brewery with tours would be cool though. 

[Conan71]

Cool, there's such a shortage of event centers in the area...

[Townsend]

Really need to change these damned laws about booze.

I will most likely skip this place out of principle.  If I can buy it in a QT then it's not really beer.

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

Really need to change these damned laws about booze.

I will most likely skip this place out of principle.  If I can buy it in a QT then it's not really beer.

We should start a petition to get the liquor law changes on the ballot.  With SQ 750 passing, only a little over 80,000 signatures are required.

[Townsend]

We should start a petition to get the liquor law changes on the ballot.  With SQ 750 passing, only a little over 80,000 signatures are required.

Will there be a committee involved? 

Not to be a negative Nelly but it seems anytime there's a committee, we get the 10" record where the sun don't shine.

[Conan71]

Will there be a committee involved? 

Not to be a negative Nelly but it seems anytime there's a committee, we get the 10" record where the sun don't shine.

Doesn't matter anyhow the mob er, I mean the liquor lobby won't let this happen with all their slush funds and contributions to law makers efforts to protect us from ourselves.

[custosnox]

Doesn't matter anyhow the mob er, I mean the liquor lobby won't let this happen with all their slush funds and contributions to law makers efforts to protect us from ourselves.

I say it's worth a shot.  If someone could draft the petition, I'm sure we could get the signatures.  At least this way there would be less of a chance of it getting killed because some legislater tacked on some other insane revision to it.