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Arizona Boycott Actually Taking Shape

Started by we vs us, May 14, 2010, 10:57:33 AM

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patric

Quote from: guido911 on May 14, 2010, 06:06:37 PM
Come on waterboy, the lines are already drawn on who supports or opposes AZ new law.

...And it's pretty much dividing the country.
As many people are appalled by it as fervently support it.
But as our nationalist pride mobilizes, are we making Mexicans the new Jews? 



"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

dbacks fan

You know, I was planning a trip to the town of my birth, Tulsa. I'm now considering changing that since I live in Arizona and I don't want to come to a place where I am going to feel intimidated by the fact that I am being labled racist because I have an AZ DL and AZ tags on my car. Will I be able to get a hotel room in Tulsa or is going to be "We don't serve your kind"?

Geez, you know it's sad when the US ATTORNEY GENERAL criticizes a law that he hasn't even bothered to read http://www.mediaite.com/online/attorney-general-eric-holder-admits-to-not-reading-arizonas-immigration-law/ Come on he has people reading it for him so he can make a determination on it. IT'S TEN PAGES LONG! He dosen't have time to read it?

I am so tired of the knee jerk reactions to this from people who haven't even bothered to read the bill.

And as for LA boycotting Arizona, talk about the pot calling the kettle, Cali was the leader in illegal immigration for years before they(the Feds) tightened the border there.

dbacks fan

Arnie needs to tend to Cali and stay out of AZ.

Montebello  High School in  California


You will not see this heart-stopping photo on the front page of the NY Times, nor on the lead story of the major news networks.
The protestors at  Montebello High School took the American flag off the school's flag pole and hung it upside down while putting up the Mexican flag over it. 

This stunt may be the nail in the coffin of any guest-worker/amnesty plan on the table in  Washington  ..

The image of the American flag subsumed to another and turned upside down on American soil is already spreading on Internet forums and via e-mail.

Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and to every representative in the state and federal government.

If you choose to remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have worked for left, because it will have been 'redistributed' to the activists, while you choose the path of peace and stay out of the 'fray'.

Check history, it is full of nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens no longer held on to their core beliefs and values.

One person CAN make a difference.

One plus one plus one plus one plus one plus one........ ..

The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually mean something, however, hasn't even begun.


http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp

dbacks fan

Quote from: swake on May 14, 2010, 04:38:26 PM
My wife is Native American, and often gets confused with Hispanics, especially when we travel. People in  certain areas will sometimes even speak to her in Spanish first, sadly she only speaks some French that she took in high school and college.

We are planning a Vacation style road trip ending in Vegas with the kids over the summer and are planning on driving out to the Grand Canyon as part of the trip. I drive pretty fast and will probably get pulled over at some point on the trip, I usually do. What papers should she carry to prove she is an American? She has no green card, no resident alien card. Despite her appearance she has no papers granting her citizenship because she was born at St John's, just like her mother was, I think her father was born there too. All she has is her DL. Does she need to be sure to carry her Passport also if we go Arizona this summer? It might be expired, will that be a problem? What about my daughter, she doesn't have a Passport, she looks a lot like her mom, do we need to make sure to get her Passport before we go into Arizona? Are they going to potentially lock up my 14 year old for not carrying papers?

The real result of this law is that illegals will be unwilling and unable to call police when they are the victims of crimes, it will be open season for criminals on illegals. It's going to make controlling crime and drugs more difficult instead of easier. Police contact is all that is required to start the questioning. And that law isn't even the most offensive one just passed in Arizona.

Teachers with accents are going to not be allowed to teach in Arizona anymore. The state is going to send auditors into schools testing the English skills of teachers:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/teachers/heavily-accented-teachers-remo.html

And Ethnic Studies classes are being restricted:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/teachers/in-arizona-bad-ethnic-studies.html

These two laws have nothing to do with illegals. It impacts Native American Studies, and Black Studies. And these teachers are not illegals aliens. A Japanese teacher can be removed for having an accent just like a Hispanic can. It's pointed at everyone who isn't white, and they are especially pointed at you if you are brown. Over 30% of Arizona is Hispanic (about 25% of those Hispanics are illegal) and another 5% are Native, so about 1/3 of Arizona's citizens (not counting the illegals) are now required to carry papers proving they are citizens, and if they have an accent, they need not apply to teach. And their unique history cannot be taught in schools. 




Do both you and your wife have VALID DL's? If so you have nothing to worry about.


"The real result of this law is that illegals will be unwilling and unable to call police when they are the victims of crimes, it will be open season for criminals on illegals. It's going to make controlling crime and drugs more difficult instead of easier. Police contact is all that is required to start the questioning. And that law isn't even the most offensive one just passed in Arizona."

Total BS. They don't report or cooperate now. And controlling drugs more difficult? Are you serious? You have no clue as to how bad it is now.

"Teachers with accents are going to not be allowed to teach in Arizona anymore. The state is going to send auditors into schools testing the English skills of teachers:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/teachers/heavily-accented-teachers-remo.html

And Ethnic Studies classes are being restricted:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/teachers/in-arizona-bad-ethnic-studies.html
"

This is stupid to begin with, and it came out of Tucson not Phoenix.


swake

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Quote from: dbacks fan on May 15, 2010, 12:32:31 AM
Do both you and your wife have VALID DL's? If so you have nothing to worry about.

Untrue, there are many aliens with DLs, it is in no way positive proof of citizenship. For example it's really common for people with expired VISAs to have valid DLs.

Quote from: dbacks fan on May 15, 2010, 12:32:31 AM

"Teachers with accents are going to not be allowed to teach in Arizona anymore. The state is going to send auditors into schools testing the English skills of teachers:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/teachers/heavily-accented-teachers-remo.html

And Ethnic Studies classes are being restricted:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/teachers/in-arizona-bad-ethnic-studies.html
"

This is stupid to begin with, and it came out of Tucson not Phoenix.

I think you need to check again, it's the Arizona State Department of Education, they may well be going after Tucson Public Schools specifically (which is nuts) but these rules are from the state and apply to the entire state.

nathanm

Quote from: dbacks fan on May 15, 2010, 12:32:31 AM
You have no clue as to how bad it is now.
Apparently you have never heard of this drug called methamphetamine. Would you like to try sticking your foot in your mouth again?

And you just might want to consider reading the law we're discussing. If you did, you would know that driver's licenses (aside from Arizona licenses, which are) are not unequivocally accepted as proof of lawful residence.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Boycots are all fine and good until people figure out how much their lives are in convenienced by it. Of course Gov Schwartzenegger thinks the boycot is great. He presides over the biggest illegal alien-coddling state in the union. Maybe they will wind up with more cheap (and unwanted in Az) labor.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: Gaspar on May 14, 2010, 01:17:18 PM
+1

. . .and the lights!

Soon California will be the most energy efficient state in the union.  :D

Boy did you ever call that one.  Read this letter, freakin hilarious:

http://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/letter-azcc-villaraigosa.pdf.pdf
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

California just keeps kicking themselves in the raisins.  Blissfully liberal and terminally insolvent.  It's like a whole state of college freshmen.  A thousand causes and not a single clue.  :D



When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

guido911

Quote from: Gaspar on May 18, 2010, 02:35:35 PM
California just keeps kicking themselves in the raisins.  Blissfully liberal and terminally insolvent.  It's like a whole state of college freshmen.  A thousand causes and not a single clue.  :D




San Diego is getting theirs too.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/17/san-diego-faces-medicine-arizona-residents-cancel-travel-following-boycott/
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

Quote from: guido911 on May 18, 2010, 02:57:46 PM
San Diego is getting theirs too.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/17/san-diego-faces-medicine-arizona-residents-cancel-travel-following-boycott/


"According to the newspaper, the convention bureau has received about 25-30 emails from Arizona residents, with some saying they are canceling their reservations and taking their money elsewhere."

Ouch.

Red Arrow

It's a bit naive to think that Arizona's only option was to sit and take it regarding the boycotts.
 

Gaspar

I'm curious. . . President Obama is preparing to speak at the commencement ceremony at Kalamazoo HS in Michigan.  Each graduating senior will get the opportunity to shake the President's hand as they walk off the stage.  The president' staff is requiring each student to submit the following information before the commencement.

Full Name
Birthdate
Social Security Number
Citizenship status

I wonder if there will be boycotts?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on May 19, 2010, 08:07:53 AM
I'm curious. . . President Obama is preparing to speak at the commencement ceremony at Kalamazoo HS in Michigan.  Each graduating senior will get the opportunity to shake the President's hand as they walk off the stage.  The president' staff is requiring each student to submit the following information before the commencement.

Full Name
Birthdate
Social Security Number
Citizenship status

I wonder if there will be boycotts?

Imagine the backlash if the opposing parties get hold of a picture of Obama shaking an illegal's hand.  I'd imagine this is CYA territory.

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on May 19, 2010, 09:26:09 AM
Imagine the backlash if the opposing parties get hold of a picture of Obama shaking an illegal's hand.  I'd imagine this is CYA territory.

Good point!

I didn't even consider the Obama CYA machine.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.