Bell's new home

[Vision 2025]

Didn't Jenks have an offer on the table to a while back?

NOPE

[heironymouspasparagus]

Oil Capital,
That was an older thread where the calculations were shown on what the CEO's of some major corporations get to take home compared to real people who WORK for a living.  People like Mike Jeffries, the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch.  GM Fritz Henderson and Rick Wagoner.

This has also been covered repeatedly and publicly by people like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and John Bogle (Vanguard group).  Warren in particular has noted how grotesquely unfair it is that he pays such a much lower percentage on his taxes than his secretary does.

Easy calculations; all in the IRS 1040 instructions.

[Conan71]

Quite a noble statement from someone worth billions. Mr. Buffet is always welcome to donate more money to the government.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Ahhhh, the traditional irrelevant comment with message dispersant.

Not at all noble.  Just a recognition of the gross inequity of people like Fritz Henderson paying 16% and you and me paying 40%+.  As well as every CEO and higher manager in every corporation in the US at this time.  

And not just Warren but also two more of arguably the most visible and successful representatives of capitalism and the American dream available today.  And even "The Donald" has obliquely referred to similar thoughts and lamented the total lack of leadership from the previous Bush regime.  And no, he is no fan of Obama, either.

Or do you actually think it IS fair?

[Renaissance]

So Bell's . . . new location . . . cool.

[DolfanBob]

Here you go boy's. Now play nice !
http://www.nobellstax.com/

[Markk]

Many Tulsans have a very nostalgic view of Bell's.  Not being a native, I only saw Bell's as a small, dirty and run down collection of a few mismatched rides that looked below fair standards and quality.  Who's fault that was will probably be forever debated.  Nonetheless, I don't see how Bell's could succeed at the old location at the fair grounds - an active amusement park with attractive and updated rides located in the center of a residential area was not compatable. 

However, given the current economic climate in general and the struggles of amusement park companies in particular, securing adequate funding to build a viable park from scratch seems like a very iffy propositon.

Maybe they have changed their business model and will actually keep the park clean and attractive, whereas the old site was run down, dirty, and generally unpleasant to look at.  Unquestionably, alot of people looked at Bells through rose colored glasses--and they will never be convinced otherwise.

[nathanm]

Quite a noble statement from someone worth billions. Mr. Buffet is always welcome to donate more money to the government.

Several of my much less wealthy, but still far more wealthy than I'll likely ever be, clients say the same thing for what little that's worth.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Wagoner county would have to be as stupid as Tulsa was to get on board with something like that.

2% is a big bargain.  Tulsa State Fair charges concessionaires 20%  (yep, 20) of gross receipts for a place in the sun.  That's why turkey legs cost 7 or 8 bucks.

[Weatherdemon]

Vote on tax for Bells and fairgrounds cancelled.

[Conan71]

Vote on tax for Bells and fairgrounds cancelled.

Source?  What happened?

[Townsend]

Source?  What happened?

http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/bell%27s-sales-tax-vote-pulled-by-wagoner-county-commissioners

Tuesday morning, Wagoner County commissioners voted to rescind a vote that could have brought Bell's Amusement Park to Wagoner County. Commissioners say they wand to see a new business plan from Bell's before proceeding.

Owner Robby Bell has been looking for another location after the Tulsa County Fair Board did not renew the park's lease in late 2006.

Before Tuesday's action, voters were scheduled to decide on a 1/4 penny sales tax increase to create the space needed for the park. The money would also pay for a new expo center and animal shelter. Several locations are being considered, including Coweta off Highway 51.

[SXSW]

If not Wagoner, Rogers County by the Hard Rock would be a good place.  Access to I-44/412 and near the existing Hard Rock.  The land just to the east south of Catoosa High would be a perfect location with the improvements being made at that interchange plus it would have 44 frontage which is a lot better than 51.  The Cherokee's might even be interested in helping fund another attraction for their flagship casino/resort..

[Conan71]

http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/bell%27s-sales-tax-vote-pulled-by-wagoner-county-commissioners

Damn! Scotched by that business plan thingy again!

[Hoss]

Damn! Scotched by that business plan thingy again!

Get out of my brain cell, Co...I was looking for your funny crayon letter that Robbie wrote to the County...LOL.