Bank Drivethrough at 6th&Cincinatti to be Plush Martini Lounge

[Townsend]

Should I just accept it an just move out of state then?  I guess i'll just move to portland then...

I wish I could say "you'd be the only one."

[jacobi]

So now we have to fight against the unjust infultration of government by local protectionist rackets AND against the indifference of good men.  I'm not so cynical to believe that things can never change.  I say we protest;  couldn't hurt.

I know, I know,  I'm delusional...I guess i'll leave this one alone since I seem to be preaching to the choir.

[Hoss]

Should I just accept it an just move out of state then?  I guess i'll just move to portland then...

I didn't say accept it; what I am saying, however, is that Oklahoma is a state of 'good ol' boys'.  Do you remember the commissioner's scandal in the early 80s?

[jacobi]

Do you remember the commissioner's scandal in the early 80s?

I was born in '82.  So no. 

[ZYX]

I was born in '82.  So no. 

You're old.

[Hoss]

I was born in '82.  So no. 

Google it. Then you'll understand why most native Oklahomans talk about 'the good old boy network'.

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[ZYX]

Google it. Then you'll understand why most native Oklahomans talk about 'the good old boy network'.

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Do you write that at the bottom, or does it automatically put that?

[Hoss]

Do you write that at the bottom, or does it automatically put that?

Automatically, when I post from my phone using that app.

[dbacks fan]

I didn't say accept it; what I am saying, however, is that Oklahoma is a state of 'good ol' boys'.  Do you remember the commissioner's scandal in the early 80s?

77 counties in the state, and 75 under investigation. Trudeau did a whole Doonseberry segment for a few weeks on it. I used to joke with people at the town I worked in when they talked about good ole boy politics.

[Hoss]

77 counties in the state, and 75 under investigation. Trudeau did a whole Doonseberry segment for a few weeks on it. I used to joke with people at the town I worked in when they talked about good ole boy politics.

The line from Don Henley's song Dirty Laundry: 'Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies, they got their dirty little fingers in everybody's pie' was directly in reference to this, according to several sources.

[jacobi]

To refocus the thread, there is a for lease sign on the building.  I guess that it isn't goint to happen.  However, if they had done any of the buildout work it still is a net gain.  I know that running drain lines and other such initial buildout expences can be crushing.  Su if they got any of the work done before abandoning it, at least it would be easier for someone in the future. 

Also, there was a comment made about The enterprise building.  I don't think it is within 300 feet of first presb.  If the park oridinance is true then there would be a problem, but I don't think they are within 300 feet of the church.  By the way, you CAN drink in public parks, but having abar thereby would be against the rules?  I suggest, if we do have a protest, we go down to centennial green loaded with non-glass containers of booze and enjoy ourselves while making our voices heard.  Ok, screw the protest.  let's just drink..

[carltonplace]

I like the way you drink think

[Conan71]

Without filtering back through the thread, do we know if it was ABLE restrictions, local distance ordinances, or they simply lost interest/money?

[em]

Here's what the owner told me. He said when he began this mess, he was told that the 300 feet designation was between points of entry between the church and the front door. He then told me how surprised he was to find out later on that the designation was from property line to property line. It had nothing to do with where his front door was! That's why he had to change it from its original concept of a bar to that of restaurant. He now says they're having problems with vent hoods and that's hold up where all his money is going...that and "other issues" in Houston.

After asking around, I found out that the concepts he'd been quoted had included ventless hood from the get go. Sounds like there's more to this story than he was telling me. As for the whole 300 foot thing? Seriously?! Who doesn't do full due diligence before proceeding with a buildout? It just isnt' adding up.

[dbacks fan]

Here's what the owner told me. He said when he began this mess, he was told that the 300 feet designation was between points of entry between the church and the front door. He then told me how surprised he was to find out later on that the designation was from property line to property line. It had nothing to do with where his front door was! That's why he had to change it from its original concept of a bar to that of restaurant. He now says they're having problems with vent hoods and that's hold up where all his money is going...that and "other issues" in Houston.

After asking around, I found out that the concepts he'd been quoted had included ventless hood from the get go. Sounds like there's more to this story than he was telling me. As for the whole 300 foot thing? Seriously?! Who doesn't do full due diligence before proceeding with a buildout? It just isnt' adding up.

The 300' distance has been a point of contention since liquor by the drink was lealized in Tulsa County in 1985. One of the first ones was a topless bar in Brookside that was in a building around 36th & Peoria in a building on the second floor. The entrance was on the backside of the building and was way more than 300' from the entrance to the church. But the property line division was only about five feet between the buildings so the club was forced to relocate.