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The "Serpent Head" Goes After Obama

Started by guido911, May 26, 2010, 01:56:37 PM

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guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Carville's been going after Obama pretty hard lately.  I think it was predictable.  It's the sound of the Hillary Clinton campaign machine firing up.  He still works for them.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

heironymouspasparagus

Some of the story is starting to come out.  Finally.

Think we will ever learn??


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend


Gaspar

First press conference in 308 days. 
400+ speeches. 

The Saturday Night Live skit writes itself.

Obama said federal officials specifically ordered the company to drill two holes as part of that effort instead of the single one executives had proposed.

"BP is operating at our direction," Obama said. "Every key decision and action they take must be approved by us in advance," adding that, if the Coast Guard ordered BP to do something, "they are legally bound to do it."

"Our teams are authorized to direct BP, in the same way that they'd be authorized to direct those teams if they were technically being paid by the government."

Obama blamed practices of the previous administration.





No one as of yet has fainted at the press conference.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

I like it, now we find out the government has been firmly in charge of this situation from the git-go.  Since it's such a cluster- love, is anyone surprised?

They must be confident the top-kill is going to work.  If it fails, I would assume it's because BP has been leading during this ordeal, not the Obama Admin.

"The president's direct language on being in charge of the spill response, which he repeated several times, marked a change in emphasis from earlier administration assertions that, while the government was overseeing the operation, BP had the expertise and equipment to make the decisions on how to stop the flow.

As recently as Monday, the top federal official in charge of dealing with the oil catastrophe, Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, declined to broadly say the federal government was "in charge." Instead, when asked about that, Allen told reporters that BP was responsible for the cleanup and the government was accountable to make sure the company did it. "I would say it's less a case of 'in charge,'" Allen said when asked about that phrase.

Yet with each passing day, public frustration with Obama's administration has grown, and his poll numbers on the matter are dropping.

Claiming control carries its own political risks for Obama, because any failure to stop the gusher will then belong to the president. But he could suffer politically if his administration is seen as falling short of staying on top of the problem or not working hard to find a solution."

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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

#7
Once again, there is nothing Obama can do (other than die or resign) that would make you guys happy. You complain when he "oversees" rather than "orders," then you complain that he's "ordering" rather than "overseeing."

At least now I see why Rove refused to let GWB change his mind on anything, ever, no matter how stupid his original thought/plan was.

Edited to add: And this whole "Obama's Katrina" meme that's been thrown out there for the thousandth time is really stupid. This is quite an environmental disaster, and even a significant economic disaster, but people aren't dying in their attics and on their rooftops while the federal government twiddles its collective thumbs.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

#8
Quote from: nathanm on May 27, 2010, 03:38:44 PM
Once again, there is nothing Obama can can't do (other than die or resign) that would make you guys unhappy.

Right back at ya.  And incidentally, the clip I posted was a rant from a dem; like this one.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37878.html
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on May 27, 2010, 03:38:44 PM
Once again, there is nothing Obama can do (other than die or resign) that would make you guys happy. You complain when he "oversees" rather than "orders," then you complain that he's "ordering" rather than "overseeing."

At least now I see why Rove refused to let GWB change his mind on anything, ever, no matter how stupid his original thought/plan was.

Edited to add: And this whole "Obama's Katrina" meme that's been thrown out there for the thousandth time is really stupid. This is quite an environmental disaster, and even a significant economic disaster, but people aren't dying in their attics and on their rooftops while the federal government twiddles its collective thumbs.

It's obvious the government is bungling this because Obama hates all the white fishermen along the coast... /snark

Honestly tell me that McCain wouldn't have been crucified in the media by now for how poorly this has been handled if it had been on his watch.  The first action out of the administration was to send lawyers to N.O. to figure out who was responsible.  Lawyers can't stop an oil spill.

The economic misery this disaster could have throughout the gulf for many years to come could be far more devastating than Katrina was.  Parish and state level authorities have had to sit on their hands waiting for permits from the government to be able to help protect their wetlands.  How has that been a good handling of the situation, Nathan?

I simply don't get the flip/flop, it's not up to the governement to lead, then we find out they've been leading all along, which one is it?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Rico

Quote from: guido911 on May 27, 2010, 01:25:24 PM
"Did you plug the hole yet daddy?"

A Rand new kinda Racism....

Bounce Sister Sara on your knee aye daddy!

guido911

Quote from: Rico on May 27, 2010, 04:40:35 PM
A Rand new kinda Racism....

Bounce Sister Sara on your knee aye daddy!


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Do you where that quote came from?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on May 27, 2010, 04:28:23 PM

Right back at ya.  And incidentally, the clip I posted was a rant from a dem; like this one.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37878.html
Yeah, I know. Carville is an idiot and has been for a long time. His blathering was the specific reason I included the part about how it's stupid to call this "Obama's Katrina".

Also, I think you should be aware that Obama has done quite a few things I disagree with. I have, after all, posted my discontent on this forum. If you were previously not aware of that, consider yourself informed.

In any event, this whole lack of response idea is completely at odds with reality. There are something around 70 experts advising the administration, plus the approximately 20,000 federal employees actively working on cleanup.

Let's blame the morons who ignored the signs that a blowout was getting ready to happen hours before it actually did after they had started replacing drilling mud with seawater rather than the people who have been cleaning up the mess the morons made. Or would that be too ideological for you?

Also, blaming Obama for the initial response, when initial reports indicated that the leak was minor and would be easily contained is pretty far off base. What one does when confronted with a thousand barrel a day spill is vastly different than what one does when confronted with a 20,000 barrel a day spill. There was no delay, except in the minds of right wing radio and television personalities, several of whom went so far as to speculate that the whole thing was a setup by the administration to get some bill or another passed or make BP look bad, among other conspiracy theories.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln


Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on May 27, 2010, 04:39:02 PM
  Lawyers can't stop an oil spill.

How about if you stuff them down the well instead of mud and concrete?