The "Serpent Head" Goes After Obama

[Hoss]

How about if you stuff them down the well instead of mud and concrete?

How about we send them down there along with the bigwigs at BP?

[Red Arrow]

How about we send them down there along with the bigwigs at BP?

Sounds like a plan.  Think we could make any money on it?

[rwarn17588]

Honestly tell me that McCain wouldn't have been crucified in the media by now for how poorly this has been handled if it had been on his watch.  

OK ... McCain wouldn't have been crucified, namely because he has many, many friends in the media.

Besides, I think most folks recognize this for what it is ... a gigantic clusterf*ck by BP.

[Gaspar]

How about if you stuff them down the well instead of mud and concrete?

I think a lawyer topkill maneuver would be a favorable response.  I think we have enough resources for it.

70 experts advising the administration, plus the approximately 20,000 federal employees actively working on cleanup.

[Conan71]

OK ... McCain wouldn't have been crucified, namely because he has many, many friends in the media.

Besides, I think most folks recognize this for what it is ... a gigantic clusterf*ck by BP.

An entire eco-system and hundreds of miles of coastline hangs in the balance here while the Government and officials with BP & Transocean jockey for control and disperse blame.  Louisiana could have already put up 10 miles in of sand barriers to protect wetlands if the U.S. Gov't would have responded when the request was made on May 11.  To date, they still have no permission to do so because the Feds are dithering.

President Bush was harshly criticized for a slow response to Katrina.  He was in N.O. within four days, he was on top of the situation as it developed.  Sending him in any earlier likely would have gotten in the way of critical rescue operations due to the security needs, the media circus which follows him and the total distraction it would have caused.  FEMA had never been faced with that large a scale of a disaster before.  As well, the city and state governments were somewhat defiant of what aid had been sent to them ("we aren't getting on a bunch of damn school buses!") by the Feds in the Katrina disaster.  This time around, the parish and state governments are trying to mitigate the damage and they are being forced to sit and spin while the Feds sit on their thumbs.  Wasn't that the same charges leveled at FEMA and the Bush admin? 

It was fully eight days before President Obama made public comments on the growing disaster in the Gulf and it's obvious the JD, EPA, and DHS (exactly why again were the JD and DHS a part of the original response?) aren't any better organized to handle what could become the largest ecologic disaster in American history if the spill is not stopped soon.  I see President Obama getting a pass that President Bush did not. 

Since there's a common misconception in the media and American left that oil companies own the GOP, I'm sure McCain would have been crucified.  Checking opensecrets.org, BP has donated in the neighborhood of $3.5mm in political contributions.  Care to guess who the single largest recipient has been of that largesse? President Obama, $77,000 worth in his 2008 campaign for POTUS.  While the President has been decrying the cozy relationship between industry regulators and the industry, that oily money has his palm prints all over it, yet it's not getting much play in the media at all.

[rwarn17588]

Conan, you can keep saying that McCain would have been crucified by the media, and I've offered evidence why he wouldn't have.

McCain's been very friendly with national and Beltway reporters for many years. That fact is indisputable.

Face it ... your half-baked conjecture is no better than mine. 

[Gaspar]

Conan,

The whole leader thing is not really his forte.  He's more of a speaker. 

He gave a great speech yesterday.

. . .and Rwarn, you're right the media really hates Obama.  They're at his throat all the time.  Poor guy. . .gives me a chill running up my leg just thinking about it.

[Conan71]

Conan, you can keep saying that McCain would have been crucified by the media, and I've offered evidence why he wouldn't have.

McCain's been very friendly with national and Beltway reporters for many years. That fact is indisputable.

Face it ... your half-baked conjecture is no better than mine. 

Evidence?  When did your opinion become evidence?  Afterall, my opinion is the only one which matters 

You do have to admit that the GOP is percieved as the coddler of big oil, yes?  As such, the implication would have been the administration enabled an accident like this because that's what evil Republicans do: they only look out for corporate interests and take corrupt oil money, environment be damned. 

You are right, I forget how kind McCain's friends in the beltway media were to him during the 2008 general election.  Shame on me.

[rwarn17588]

. . .and Rwarn, you're right the media really hates Obama.  They're at his throat all the time.  Poor guy. . .gives me a chill running up my leg just thinking about it.

I don't know whether they hate or like Obama. Based on what I've read and heard from a wide variety of sources, it seems to be neither in the overall scheme of things for a enormous range of reasons.

I do know that many reporters in the Beltway like McCain very much. They've hung around his Arizona ranch in Sedona, they've been buddy-buddy with him in campaigns, they like his informal chats with them. This is all very well-documented.

[rwarn17588]

Evidence?  When did your opinion become evidence?  Afterall, my opinion is the only one which matters 

You do have to admit that the GOP is percieved as the coddler of big oil, yes?  As such, the implication would have been the administration enabled an accident like this because that's what evil Republicans do: they only look out for corporate interests and take corrupt oil money, environment be damned. 

You are right, I forget how kind McCain's friends in the beltway media were to him during the 2008 general election.  Shame on me.

Yes, McCain got a pass from many in the media for some pretty disreputable things that occurred during his 2008 campaign. You had all sorts of prominent Beltway reporters express their disappointment with him, but they didn't go further than that because they liked him too much.

And, yes, the GOP is considered a coddler of big oil because they've been a coddler of big business in general. This is not news to anyone.

[Conan71]

Yes, McCain got a pass from many in the media for some pretty disreputable things that occurred during his 2008 campaign. You had all sorts of prominent Beltway reporters express their disappointment with him, but they didn't go further than that because they liked him too much.

And, yes, the GOP is considered a coddler of big oil because they've been a coddler of big business in general. This is not news to anyone.

Disreputable? Such as?  They went real easy on him vis-a-vis his choice for a running mate, we know that much.  What else played so well with the media?  Was that the same media which accused him of having anger issues, living apart from his wife, crapping on his first wife Carol, snide comments about his physical disabilities and age?  That media?  Or was that the other media?

[Gaspar]

And, yes, the GOP is considered a coddler of big oil because they've been a coddler of big business business in general. This is not news to anyone.

Fixed it for you.

I hate those evil employers. . . making people go to work.

[Gaspar]

crapping on his first wife Carol

Disgusting fetish! 

[Conan71]

Disgusting fetish! 

I'm going to have to invent a coffee speedy dry for computer keyboards, that or put the cup down before I open one of your posts.

[rwarn17588]

Disreputable? Such as?  They went real easy on him vis-a-vis his choice for a running mate, we know that much.  What else played so well with the media?  Was that the same media which accused him of having anger issues, living apart from his wife, crapping on his first wife Carol, snide comments about his physical disabilities and age?  That media?  Or was that the other media?

You're talking about stuff that didn't get much traction in the overall scheme of things and rightfully so, except maybe for that horrible choice for a veep, which should have gotten a lot of scrutiny.

I mean, if you campaign for months about your experience and your opponent's lack thereof, it's pretty stupid to choose a running mate that eviscerates your own strength.