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Started by sgrizzle, May 29, 2010, 01:28:35 PM

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azbadpuppy

Quote from: Hoss on June 01, 2010, 08:20:01 AM
I don't think that would work out with why they have the space on the back of the building now.  It was to allow delivery vehicles access and not interfere with customer traffic.  Splitting the gas islands nullifies that.

Does QT ever do just stores without gas pumps? They should really do an urban version of this new concept for areas like Brookside or DT. I know 7-11 has many urban inner city stores without gas pumps.

 

Conan71

Quote from: azbadpuppy on June 01, 2010, 10:08:20 AM
Does QT ever do just stores without gas pumps? They should really do an urban version of this new concept for areas like Brookside or DT. I know 7-11 has many urban inner city stores without gas pumps.



That's come up under different discussions on here, I think specifically talking about opening some sort of convenience store in the Mayo Parking Plaza to the west of the Mayo Hotel.  I have no idea if anyone from QT reads these forums, but if they are eaves-dropping, I hope it's a concept they would consider.  However, when you work with "templates" and repeatability, it's kind of hard to break from those paradigms for a one-off or two.
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Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on June 01, 2010, 10:12:31 AM
That's come up under different discussions on here, I think specifically talking about opening some sort of convenience store in the Mayo Parking Plaza to the west of the Mayo Hotel.  I have no idea if anyone from QT reads these forums, but if they are eaves-dropping, I hope it's a concept they would consider.  However, when you work with "templates" and repeatability, it's kind of hard to break from those paradigms for a one-off or two.

Technically, the store they have inside the Sprint Center in KC is that way.

But the reason for going is entirely different.

DowntownDan

Is there a plan to open one of these new versions on Brookside where the Lee's Bicycle was torn down?  If an "urban" QT ever made sense, it would make sense on Brookside which is one of the only truly pedestrian friendly neighborhoods in Tulsa. 

Hoss

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Quote from: DowntownDan on June 01, 2010, 03:51:19 PM
Is there a plan to open one of these new versions on Brookside where the Lee's Bicycle was torn down?  If an "urban" QT ever made sense, it would make sense on Brookside which is one of the only truly pedestrian friendly neighborhoods in Tulsa.  

Like I said before, four prototypes were planned.  Three in Tulsa (51st/129th, Gilcrease Museum Rd and Hwy 412, 15th and Denver), one in Independence, MO.  They'll evaluate and see how they do and take it from there.

Do keep in mind that these store are larger than the current stores.  I wouldn't necessarily classify this as an 'urban' QT.  It's just better designed.

carltonplace

Quote from: swampee on June 01, 2010, 07:04:13 AM
The new QTs look great. One question I have is why not this design for brookside with all the tables and chairs out front. The QT expansion really disrupts the flow to Brookside. Also Im surprised they are putting this at 15th and Denver. That area is already bum central why give them more reason to hang out.

Hey! that is my hood you're disparaging.

What makes them hang out is the easy money from the people going in and out. Stop giving them your quarters and they will move along.

custosnox

Quote from: carltonplace on June 03, 2010, 01:57:18 PM
Hey! that is my hood you're disparaging.

What makes them hang out is the easy money from the people going in and out. Stop giving them your quarters and they will move along.
I would have thought it would be the public bathrooms, but then again, I don't think they care if they have one available or not.

DolfanBob

I read where the QT at 51st and 129th has 16 pumps and all the parking is on the side of the building. Also there is picnic tables out front.
I thought the bulk of their money was made on their fuel and the concept of you being there less than 2 minutes in the store. Not hanging around out front for who knows how long eating their quickie sandwiches.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

custosnox

Quote from: DolfanBob on June 03, 2010, 02:39:26 PM
I read where the QT at 51st and 129th has 16 pumps and all the parking is on the side of the building. Also there is picnic tables out front.
I thought the bulk of their money was made on their fuel and the concept of you being there less than 2 minutes in the store. Not hanging around out front for who knows how long eating their quickie sandwiches.
You can see tables in the photos I posted with my kids sitting at one, though I didn't bother counting the pumps while I was there.
I heard somewhere that convienance stores make little to no profit on gas, and sometimes opperate at a loss on it.  It is just there to draw people in to get the quickie sandwiches and what not. 

Townsend

Quote from: DolfanBob on June 03, 2010, 02:39:26 PM
I thought the bulk of their money was made on their fuel and the concept of you being there less than 2 minutes in the store. Not hanging around out front for who knows how long eating their quickie sandwiches.

Tobacco and beer.

Hoss

Quote from: custosnox on June 03, 2010, 02:42:38 PM
You can see tables in the photos I posted with my kids sitting at one, though I didn't bother counting the pumps while I was there.
I heard somewhere that convienance stores make little to no profit on gas, and sometimes opperate at a loss on it.  It is just there to draw people in to get the quickie sandwiches and what not. 

And you'd be correct.  Which is why so many c-stores without fuel pumps never make it longer than about a year unless they serve niche demo.  I was in the c-store business many moons ago (when I lived in Houston I worked for a company that was a fuel vendor for MANY mom & pop c-stores in Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida and we provided fuel for the now-defunct Dairy Mart chain of c-stores).

DolfanBob

I went to the new concept store last Saturday.
Had myself a nice cold Latte made for me by one of two employees at the all new Coffee/Latte bar. Kinda like a Ice cream bar but java.
It comes across like their version of Flying-J or Loves truck stops. Kinda weird to me.
Probably just means more Ka Ching.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

bacjz00

I'm still waiting for QT to open up a store near the Tulsa Hills area.  Even with the new QT going in way out in Glenpool @ 121st, there is still 11 miles of "gas station purgatory" along Hwy 75 corridor northbound into downtown.   The only serious option is the QT at 15th and Denver, otherwise you're stuck.   In my opinion, 81st & Hwy 75 would make an ideal spot.  Easy on and off the highway and it would be great for all of the folks who live west of the river and also who use the Creek Turnpike to come in to downtown from South Tulsa.

Am I just crazy or should QT already be building this store?  The demand is THROUGH THE ROOF.
 

BKDotCom

Quote from: bacjz00 on June 08, 2010, 07:49:22 PM
I'm still waiting for QT to open up a store near the Tulsa Hills area.  Even with the new QT going in way out in Glenpool @ 121st, there is still 11 miles of "gas station purgatory" along Hwy 75 corridor northbound into downtown.   The only serious option is the QT at 15th and Denver, otherwise you're stuck.   In my opinion, 81st & Hwy 75 would make an ideal spot.  Easy on and off the highway and it would be great for all of the folks who live west of the river and also who use the Creek Turnpike to come in to downtown from South Tulsa.

Am I just crazy or should QT already be building this store?  The demand is THROUGH THE ROOF.

Agreed.  I sometimes use the one on Union Ave, but it's a small detour

bacjz00

Is there someone at QuikTrip whose doorbell I can ring on this?   Honestly, I would have expected them to break ground on one in the Tulsa Hills area over 2 years ago.    Is there someone at QT holding a grudge over land brokers in this area or what?   What am I missing? 

It's starting to annoy me and the other 50,000+ travelers per day who share this stretch of "road" according to the latest INCOG traffic count.