Quiktrip - Type 3

[Hoss]

"...but I suppose they know their own demands better than I."

I don't think anyone really knows what QT is thinking.  I can't figure out why they or any other gasoline retailer won't open a store along 75 corridor into downtown.  It continues to be the most underserved stretch of highway in the city limits.  10+ miles with no convenient access to fuel.  Geebus, someone loan me the money and I'll go do it myself and pay you back the entire amount in what....a month? maybe two?   I still can't get that 50,000 average daily traffic count out of my head.   

I got to thinking about this.  Maybe it's the same as the issue with the ground in east Tulsa, out by Eastland Mall, where the rock layer is really shallow.  Makes for difficult and expensive submerging of tanks to store the gasoline in.

[rwarn17588]

"...but I suppose they know their own demands better than I."

I don't think anyone really knows what QT is thinking.  I can't figure out why they or any other gasoline retailer won't open a store along 75 corridor into downtown.  It continues to be the most underserved stretch of highway in the city limits.  10+ miles with no convenient access to fuel.  Geebus, someone loan me the money and I'll go do it myself and pay you back the entire amount in what....a month? maybe two?   I still can't get that 50,000 average daily traffic count out of my head.   

Define "convenient" and where this supposed desert area is. I drive that stretch all the time, and it's certainly not 10 miles with no gas stations.

Is less than a quarter-mile from an off-ramp too far to be labeled convenient?

[Red Arrow]

Is less than a quarter-mile from an off-ramp too far to be labeled convenient?

Yes.  Unless there is a sign at least 100 ft high visible from 2 miles and the station is directly at the end or beginning of an entrance/exit ramp, it is inconvenient.


Almost forgot, the price had better be the lowest in town too.

[swake]

"...but I suppose they know their own demands better than I."

I don't think anyone really knows what QT is thinking.  I can't figure out why they or any other gasoline retailer won't open a store along 75 corridor into downtown.  It continues to be the most underserved stretch of highway in the city limits.  10+ miles with no convenient access to fuel.  Geebus, someone loan me the money and I'll go do it myself and pay you back the entire amount in what....a month? maybe two?   I still can't get that 50,000 average daily traffic count out of my head.   

Quik Trip has a new store going in at 121st on 75 in front of the new Glenpool Super Wal-Mart, and another new store two miles off 75 on the Creek turnpike at Peoria/Elm in Jenks (at about 102nd) and they have a current stores at 51st on 75 and 141st on 75 and another on 71st two miles from the highway again at about where Peoria would be if it went through.

[YoungTulsan]

Quik Trip has a new store going in at 121st on 75 in front of the new Glenpool Super Wal-Mart, and another new store two miles off 75 on the Creek turnpike at Peoria/Elm in Jenks (at about 102nd) and they have a current stores at 51st on 75 and 141st on 75 and another on 71st two miles from the highway again at about where Peoria would be if it went through.

No one would know how to get to the 51st & Union location just driving through on 75 unless they actually know the neighborhood.  I don't think US75 even mentions access to Union on the signs, just I-44 Westbound.   I'm sure a location adjacent to Tulsa Hills will eventually make sense at 71st or 81st as the area gains more retail attractions and new homes.  The stretch from 41st northward to the bridge is both sparsely populated and awkwardly positioned for putting in a store directly off the highway.  It is all refinery/storage tanks, railroads, utilities, intersecting highways, and parallel roads (SW Blvd) - A real clusterf--k if you ask me.  Plus the store at 33rd W. Ave & Southwest Blvd. is servicing the areas locals.

[Conan71]

"...but I suppose they know their own demands better than I."

I don't think anyone really knows what QT is thinking.  I can't figure out why they or any other gasoline retailer won't open a store along 75 corridor into downtown.  It continues to be the most underserved stretch of highway in the city limits.  10+ miles with no convenient access to fuel.  Geebus, someone loan me the money and I'll go do it myself and pay you back the entire amount in what....a month? maybe two?   I still can't get that 50,000 average daily traffic count out of my head.   

QT has supposedly bought land surrounding the Sinclair station at 41st & Union. There was an accident there two years ago which resulted in an explosion & fire. My understanding is QT had negotiated with the owners to buy that plot but the owners decided to repair the station and reopen rather than sell out. QT needs that new spot. Their 51st & Union location is always over-packed

[Hoss]

QT has supposedly bought land surrounding the Sinclair station at 41st & Union. There was an accident there two years ago which resulted in an explosion & fire. My understanding is QT had negotiated with the owners to buy that plot but the owners decided to repair the station and reopen rather than sell out. QT needs that new spot. Their 51st & Union location is always over-packed

Plus, IIRC, they're one of the last QT's to have the 'inline' gas pumps.  By that I mean that they don't have the system of multi-island, two pumps per island layout at that store.  It's the same at the 61st/Mingo store, and the one by TU on 11th.

[dbacks fan]

That was a QT and it was there until a few years ago.  I'm pretty sure the new location at 96th & Delaware being built is when they shut that one down.  Although that is a pretty far distance for QT standards.  81st & Lewis is kind of a QuikTrip dry spot, but I suppose they know their own demands better than I.

Thanks, that verifies something I was looking for.

[dbacks fan]

QT has supposedly bought land surrounding the Sinclair station at 41st & Union. There was an accident there two years ago which resulted in an explosion & fire. My understanding is QT had negotiated with the owners to buy that plot but the owners decided to repair the station and reopen rather than sell out. QT needs that new spot. Their 51st & Union location is always over-packed

IIRC there really isn't much available as commercial in that stretch from 51st to 41st on Union. The 51st area is commercial on both sides for a couple of blocks, but then it seems to me once you get to the downhill run to 41st it's almost all residential and then Reed Park and the old elementary school at 41st, and from there to SW Blvd is residential on the west and the east side just narrows down.

[bmuscotty]

Speaking of QuikTrip's I was trying to find where a friend of mine lived in 1994 that was off of 81st and Yorktown. Was there a QuikTrip or was it a Git-N-Go that was on the southwest corner of 81st and Yorktown across from the WalMart?

That was a QT and it was there until a few years ago.  I'm pretty sure the new location at 96th & Delaware being built is when they shut that one down.  Although that is a pretty far distance for QT standards.  81st & Lewis is kind of a QuikTrip dry spot, but I suppose they know their own demands better than I.

Speaking of QT locations, wasn't the building on the northeast corner of 91st and Delaware a QT years ago? It's now Pepper's. Seems like QT has a little of the Wal Mart mentality. Close a store and build a bigger one down the street. The strip mall that was built out of that at 81st and Yorktown is just now starting to get something in it. Sat empty for a while.

[Conan71]

IIRC there really isn't much available as commercial in that stretch from 51st to 41st on Union. The 51st area is commercial on both sides for a couple of blocks, but then it seems to me once you get to the downhill run to 41st it's almost all residential and then Reed Park and the old elementary school at 41st, and from there to SW Blvd is residential on the west and the east side just narrows down.

There's no interchange with 51st on Hwy 75 due to the I-44 interchange.

There's ample room on all four sides of the 41st interchange.  There's two abandoned-looking houses on the SE corner, Toedt's Gardens has been abandoned for a few years now on the NE corner (I've been told the Toedts own the two houses on the south), there's a house presently located on the SW corner then a former car lot to the west of that, and Don and Mary have their Sinclair convenience store on the NW corner of 41st & Union.  There used to be a smaller frame house between the Sinclair and 75 as well as a house or two north of the station.  Those were torn down. That's the land supposedly owned now by QT.  I would guess QT will just have to sit and spin until they can make the owners of the Sinclair change their mind on selling out.  Either that or get in touch with the Toedts.

All four corners of the 41st interchange are ripe for commercial construction and I don't think you'd have too much trouble with getting any zoning changes needed.

[Conan71]

Speaking of QT locations, wasn't the building on the northeast corner of 91st and Delaware a QT years ago? It's now Pepper's. Seems like QT has a little of the Wal Mart mentality. Close a store and build a bigger one down the street. The strip mall that was built out of that at 81st and Yorktown is just now starting to get something in it. Sat empty for a while.

Yep, that's correct.  There was a QT in the Walnut Creek II shopping center on the west side of Harvard at 81st.  It was the end cap building closest to the Shell station which is on the corner.  There also used to be one in Utica Square, I think it's a Chico's fashion store now, just to the east of Olive Garden.  Those were two or four pump stores. 

[bmuscotty]

Thanks. I thought it was. Now maybe a bit of trivia. Wasn't the first QT in Tulsa (or the first one ever) on Peoria just south of I-44 on the west side of the street? Its now a pawn shop.

[Conan71]

You are correct on the location, not sure what the current use of it is.

This is reputed to be QT #1. Note the signage: "Open 7 to 11":

[dbacks fan]

You are correct on the location, not sure what the current use of it is.

This is reputed to be QT #1. Note the signage: "Open 7 to 11":

As I remember Git-N-Go, QT, UtoteM and 7-11 all had the same hours back then.