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Illegals Leaving Arizona

Started by guido911, May 29, 2010, 02:57:42 PM

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Red Arrow

A lack of job opportunities is probably the only thing that has a chance of reducing illegal immigration.
 

jamesrage

Quote from: azbadpuppy on June 14, 2010, 06:03:16 PM
2/3 of the Oklahoma immigration law was struck down in court.Expect much of the same in AZ.

That is a lie. Last I checked it was only 2 out of 3 employment provisions in HB 1804 not 2/3rds of HB1804 that were struck down.
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QuoteAnd if you think laws such as these will force undocumented immigrants to 'deport themselves' then you are extremely naive.

No jobs and no tax payer funded benefits and services means that illegals will have a hard time finding work. Getting pulled over for a traffic offense can get an illegal deported. Going to prison for a year for transporting an illegal means that fewer people will be willing to give a relative who is here legally a ride.
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custosnox

Quote from: azbadpuppy on June 14, 2010, 06:03:16 PM
2/3 of the Oklahoma immigration law was struck down in court. Expect much of the same in AZ.

I would like to point out that this was only in the 10th circuit, which means that if it gets picked up by the supreme court it is still possible for that this decision can get overturned and the provisions become enforcable.  On the flip side of that, the Supreme Court can still say that the third provision is unconstitutional.

azbadpuppy

Quote from: custosnox on June 14, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
I would like to point out that this was only in the 10th circuit, which means that if it gets picked up by the supreme court it is still possible for that this decision can get overturned and the provisions become enforcable.  On the flip side of that, the Supreme Court can still say that the third provision is unconstitutional.

This is true. As it now stands, and unless further legal action is taken, those 2 of the 3 provisions are unenforceable.

Arizona already has e-verify (third provision of HB 1804), which is just an electronic verification system created by the federal government to determine work eligibility, so it is unlikely it would be struck down as unconstitutional.
 

custosnox

Quote from: azbadpuppy on June 14, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
This is true. As it now stands, and unless further legal action is taken, those 2 of the 3 provisions are unenforceable.

Arizona already has e-verify (third provision of HB 1804), which is just an electronic verification system created by the federal government to determine work eligibility, so it is unlikely it would be struck down as unconstitutional.
I know it's unlikely, just pointing out the possibility, even if it is a slim possibility.

Conan71

Quote from: Red Arrow on June 14, 2010, 06:27:45 PM
A lack of job opportunities is probably the only thing that has a chance of reducing illegal immigration.

Well, if the economy keeps going the way it's been going....
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dbacks fan

Guess we're not the only ones wanting stronger enforcement of immigration laws.

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=12650447


Conan71

Quote from: dbacks fan on June 15, 2010, 01:05:54 PM
Guess we're not the only ones wanting stronger enforcement of immigration laws.

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=12650447



"Coalition for the American Dream"?

CAD?

I don't think this is any different than the requirements put on BOK Center contractors, nor what's already in HB-1804 which puts burden on employers to verify they are using legal workers.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan