Illegals Leaving Arizona

[Gaspar]

Gaspar,
The more pertinent corollary would be; "Thou shalt not steal, especially by minority!"

K. . .Let me qualify it for ya a bit.

Liberal 3rd Comandment "Thou shalt not steal, except for what thou deemest to be a worthy cause, where thou thinkest that thou canst use the loot for a better purpose than wouldst the victim of the theft." – F. A. Harper

[Conan71]

That E Verify thingy is working well at keeping companies from hiring illegals

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=1301162


http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/03/20100603tempe-id-theft-abrk.html

Say isn't Sherrif Joe of Hispanic decent?

What a racist he is 

[dbacks fan]

Say isn't Sherrif Joe of Hispanic decent?

What a racist he is 

Italian.

[nathanm]

And, as far as "illegals are paying taxes", FWIW, the pattern is to claim as many exemptions as possible.  They wind up paying their share of SS and FICA, but can wind up under-paying federal and state taxes.

For people making minimum wage, there is rarely, if ever, any income tax owed. SS and FICA is essentially the entirety of their tax.

Like our drug laws create the environment that the drug running gangs work in (just like prohibition did with alcohol and the mafia), preventing people from getting SSNs who will be working anyway just makes them have to make them up or buy them.

How exactly is it that you managed to equate letting illegal aliens get SSNs with theft? That takes some serious mental gymnastics.

[Red Arrow]

For people making minimum wage, there is rarely, if ever, any income tax owed. SS and FICA is essentially the entirety of their tax.

Now throw that on top of the income of someone that does pay taxes and the IRS may have a surprise for someone.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Liberal 3rd Comandment "Thou shalt not steal, except for what thou deemest to be a worthy cause, where thou thinkest that thou canst use the loot for a better purpose than wouldst the victim of the theft." – F. A. Harper

Or;
Thou shalt not steal, except for what thou deemest to be the benefit of Halliburton, AIG, and Lehman Brother's., and the preservation of the Bush family consulting business with the Bin Laden family, where thou thinkest that it matters not what the great unwashed masses think, because thine s*** don't stink, and thou ist "special" so thou be-ist entitled.

Hence, the 16% tax bill of the Vested Ones, and the corresponding 40% + bill of me and the vast majority of the middle class in this country.

Which percentage are you in??

[Gaspar]

Temper your scorn. 

"Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." -Yoda

[heironymouspasparagus]

Dam...I guess I went too far.  I wanted it to be scathing satire.
Oh, well, will have to drop back and punt.
Will try again later.

Don't really have much hate at all (probably a little, but that is something that is extremely difficult to self-assess).  We probably agree on this; it uses up too much energy that I can use elsewhere to better effect.

Still lurking here in 40% land.
Heir

[heironymouspasparagus]

Oh, yeah...F.A.Harper?  Yeah, I like anarchists.  I wanna be one when I grow up.  Oh, wait.  I'm already there.
He definitely is spinning in the grave after the last 30 years...

[guido911]

Gov. Jan Brewer tripling down:

[Jammie]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100611_11_A1_TheHis308476

They're ALL leaving AZ and heading for OK. There are two articles in the TW running along the same lines as this topic.

[Jammie]

Guido, cool video! You've just gotta love Gov. Brewer! I think it surprised many people that they can't sneak through the borders, start a family here, and not just automatically be able to stay so their families aren't broken up. Time for them to go back home.

[jamesrage]

Looks like it's because of the new law:

http://dailycaller.com/2010/05/28/schools-immigrant-families-leaving-arizona-because-of-new-immigration-law/

Hopefully other states will follow suit and follow Oklahoma and Arizona's example. With laws like these being enforced illegals will deport themselves. Laws like these being enforced on the local level must anger the pro-illegals seeing how it will drive another nail in Amnesty for illegals coffin.

[waterboy]

I doubt the law has had as much effect as a sinking economy has. These folks follow opportunity, and the opportunities in Arizona and Oklahoma are declining.

Nonetheless, as someone noted on a Yahoo article I read, if we were to immediately stop all illegals from working in a state, that state would come to a complete stop economically and physically. The parallels to previous generational immigration problems is pretty scary to me. One would think there is no learning going on from one age to another.

[azbadpuppy]

Hopefully other states will follow suit and follow Oklahoma and Arizona's example. With laws like these being enforced illegals will deport themselves. Laws like these being enforced on the local level must anger the pro-illegals seeing how it will drive another nail in Amnesty for illegals coffin.

2/3 of the Oklahoma immigration law was struck down in court. Expect much of the same in AZ.

And if you think laws such as these will force undocumented immigrants to 'deport themselves' then you are extremely naive.