Israel v. The Middle East

[heironymouspasparagus]

Now THAT is funny!!
Loved it!

[guido911]

You know who is kinda chickenshyte? Benjamin Netanyahu.

The other day I was talking to a senior Obama administration official about the foreign leader who seems to frustrate the White House and the State Department the most. "The thing about Bibi is, he's a chickenshit," this official said, referring to the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, by his nickname.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/10/the-crisis-in-us-israel-relations-is-officially-here/382031/?single_page=true

Because the first thing that comes to my mind about Netanyahu is that is a coward. Here is a wiki link to the military outfit he served.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayeret_Matkal#Notable_Sayeret_Matkal_figures

I cannot find the military outfit Obama or Biden served which would justify their administration's reviling Bibi's service.

[Red Arrow]

I cannot find the military outfit Obama or Biden served which would justify their administration's reviling Bibi's service.

That's classified.  You evidently do not have a need to know.

[guido911]

That's classified.  You evidently do not have a need to know.

I'm thinking about the Rumsfeld quote on known knowns, etc...

[heironymouspasparagus]

Because the first thing that comes to my mind about Netanyahu is that is a coward. Here is a wiki link to the military outfit he served.

So when and why did he lose his nerve?

A lot of that explains some things that have been kind of puzzling for a while.  In particular, the fact there has not been a hit on Iran yet.  I think that article is right - it may well be too late, politically, to do that.  And probably ineffective if done anyway.

And he has shown he has no interest in peace with anybody - he keeps building settlements.  Against any/all international law.  And how many UN resolutions**?  I have no expectations that Israel will ever make peace with the area - there are just too many obstacles on both sides - but he isn't even making a convincing propaganda effort to even try to make the outside world think it might happen.


** UN resolutions - those worthless commentaries issued to make the UN look like it is at least thinking about a topic.  Totally ignored by all sides.  But interesting how over the years, both Israel and the US have made so much noise about the Palestinians ignoring resolutions when the Israeli's ignore even more...that's how politics works.

[guido911]

So when and why did he lose his nerve?

A lot of that explains some things that have been kind of puzzling for a while.  In particular, the fact there has not been a hit on Iran yet.  I think that article is right - it may well be too late, politically, to do that.  And probably ineffective if done anyway.

And he has shown he has no interest in peace with anybody - he keeps building settlements.  Against any/all international law.  And how many UN resolutions**?  I have no expectations that Israel will ever make peace with the area - there are just too many obstacles on both sides - but he isn't even making a convincing propaganda effort to even try to make the outside world think it might happen.


** UN resolutions - those worthless commentaries issued to make the UN look like it is at least thinking about a topic.  Totally ignored by all sides.  But interesting how over the years, both Israel and the US have made so much noise about the Palestinians ignoring resolutions when the Israeli's ignore even more...that's how politics works.

You need to read up on the history of Israel. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to settlements.

[heironymouspasparagus]

You need to read up on the history of Israel. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to settlements.

Really?  Beyond the fact they are being built in places that are illegal even under Israeli law??

[heironymouspasparagus]

You need to read up on the history of Israel. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to settlements.

Which part of the history?  The part before 1947 when the Israeli's were the terrorists for dozens of years in the same way the Palestinians have been since 1947?

Or the part where they went around to all the Palestinian's houses when they came to power and forcibly removed the occupants - many times at gun point, but always giving them at least 15 minutes to gather up what they could carry to take with them - Christian AND Muslim - in the same way that Andrew Jackson's goons did to the Cherokee's to start the Trail of Tears...?  And yeah, I do know a few Palestinian Christians whose families were removed from their houses, that are now occupied by Israeli's - one lives here in town.   Spoils of war go to the victors!

And no, I am not anti-Israeli any more than I am anti-American - I just don't leave a topic as I was taught in elementary school without trying to learn something about the real history behind the propaganda.  The reality is they won, just as the US Army destroyed the plains Indians.  History - something to be learned from, and hopefully don't repeat stupid stuff.  

Not my monkeys, not my circus....