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Started by Gaspar, June 03, 2010, 10:52:11 AM

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Gaspar

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 08, 2010, 10:47:55 PM
The same BP that botched the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez spill.  (As Alyeska majority partner, it was their responsibility to have plans and implement them.  They screwed that pooch big time.)

And now they have another leak going, this time on the North Slope.  But it's only a 'few' thousand barrels.


Shell offered to help.  With much more expertise than BP (yeah, from personal experience in the field.)  Even James Cameron offered the expertise of his deep water people - the ones that know robotics and deep sea stuff thoroughly.  And I guarantee, local company TDW has excellent expertise in the pipeline industry and I bet they could have come up with something way before now.

If nothing else, get one of the readily available squeeze tools and slow dramatically, if not stop, the flow.  But that might only highlight their blinding incompetence if they accepted competent help!




I agree!  We probably should have butted in and assumed control, allowing our domestic assets command and advisory status.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

On the 16th the "Green Oil Company" will finally meet with the "Competent President." 

BP suggested they meet over the weekend, but the president has a tee-time with Rahm that he cannot break.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

DolfanBob

A friend of mine that I went to School with works in the Oil industry in the Gulf sent this letter. See what you think.

A Smoking Gun in BP's Deep Horizon Mess

 

Submitted by BassMan2 on 15. May 2010 - 11:31

Thom's nationally syndicated radio show 

 

This hasn't seemed to have gotten much circulation yet, and I think it really needs to. Seems that a crew from Schlumberger, on contract to BP, hightailed it off the platform at their own expense 6 hours before the blowout becuase BP refused their recommendation to shut down the well. This lends more credence to Thom's suggestion that corners were cut because the bigwigs were coming for a vist.

 

"BP contracted Schlumberger (SLB) to run the Cement Bond Log (CBL) test that was the final test on the plug that was skipped. The people testifying have been very coy about mentioning this, and you’ll see why.

 

SLB is an extremely highly regarded (and incredibly expensive) service company. They place a high standard on safety and train their workers to shut down unsafe operations.

 

SLB gets out to the Deepwater Horizon to run the CBL, and they find the well still kicking heavily, which it should not be that late in the operation. SLB orders the “company man” (BP’s man on the scene that runs the operation) to dump kill fluid down the well and shut-in the well. The company man refuses. SLB in the very next sentence asks for a helo to take all SLB personel back to shore. The company man says there are no more helo’s scheduled for the rest of the week (translation: you’re here to do a job, now do it). SLB gets on the horn to shore, calls SLB’s corporate HQ, and gets a helo flown out there at SLB’s expense and takes all SLB personel to shore.

 

6 hours later, the platform explodes."

 

 

Thank you.

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patric

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Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: DolfanBob on June 11, 2010, 09:06:22 AM
A friend of mine that I went to School with works in the Oil industry in the Gulf sent this letter. See what you think.
It makes a great story, one that's been going around for a few days now. Unfortunately, it's not true. I forget the exact details, but basically it had supposedly been decided that BP didn't want the log done just then so sent the Schlumberger folks home and the Schlumberger folks went back on the next regularly scheduled BP flight. At least that's what's being reported as fact to the supposed fiction.
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DolfanBob

Quote from: nathanm on June 11, 2010, 02:29:41 PM
It makes a great story, one that's been going around for a few days now. Unfortunately, it's not true. I forget the exact details, but basically it had supposedly been decided that BP didn't want the log done just then so sent the Schlumberger folks home and the Schlumberger folks went back on the next regularly scheduled BP flight. At least that's what's being reported as fact to the supposed fiction.

Man. You just cant believe anything on this internet thingy.
Thanks for the info.
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Red Arrow

Or.....

Nathan is just making up his story.

Nathan might just be the secret majority shareholder in BP.

;D

Or not.
 

Conan71

You gotta watch Nathan, he's a shill for corporate America and a closet Tea Partier.
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Gaspar

I bet he owns guns and eats meat too!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

DolfanBob

Quote from: Conan71 on June 11, 2010, 03:06:01 PM
You gotta watch Nathan, he's a shill for corporate America and a closet Tea Partier.

Better that than a Tea Bagger....nyuk,nyuk,nyuk.
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Jammie

The oil spewing into the Gulf is much more then was originally reported. Meanwhile, BP is handing out $$ to their investors. When they were reprimanded for this by the Administration, BP assured them that they have enough $$ for everyone. Yet, there are news stories where people are still waiting for their checks. I'm confused.

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heironymouspasparagus

Who would have thought they could do a documentary so quick...


Another huge tragedy to all this is the cost to the investors in BP.  40% of shareholders are US, many with pension fund investments and the classic 'little old lady'.  Roughly 50 to 60% are in UK (most of rest) and again, pension funds and pension investors.

The dividend they pay in the UK amounts to 1/8 of all the dividends paid in the UK.  12%.
Just shows what a huge piece of the UK economy they are.

This is sad that these incompetent b******* are running that show.  And if they were US corporation, their officers would be enjoying that 16% tax rate that our corporate officers enjoy!  Bonus!




"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

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we vs us

So I've been wondering, as this has gotten worse and worse, and it's more and more obvious that BP has been skirting a boatload of regulations . . . when does a corporation get the death penalty? 

Is there a point where the amount of damage done to society by BP is so huge that, just like a regular person, we decide that society can only be made whole by disassembling the corporation, both as punishment and as warning? 

We seem to want to give corporations a whole raft of rights usually reserved for actual humans, but avoid applying similar punishments for bad actions.  I can't actually remember a case where a corporation is so directly responsible for such a huge tragedy.  The scale really boggles the mind . . . and that $20 billion reparations fund is really only the tip of the iceberg when we're talking about the livelihoods of potentially millions of people being wiped out for a generation. 


Gaspar

Quote from: we vs us on June 21, 2010, 03:33:26 PM
So I've been wondering, as this has gotten worse and worse, and it's more and more obvious that BP has been skirting a boatload of regulations . . . when does a corporation get the death penalty? 

Is there a point where the amount of damage done to society by BP is so huge that, just like a regular person, we decide that society can only be made whole by disassembling the corporation, both as punishment and as warning? 



Idealistic and emotional response we vs us.   

There are individuals that are at fault, and they need to be held accountable. 

BP as a corporation is 97,000 employees, 1,300 franchise owners, and tens of thousands of employees of those franchises. The corporation is also millions of stock holders. 

99.99% of these people are not guilty, and devastated by this disaster.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.