Proposed law would block judges from using sharia law and international law

[guido911]

OK, so our legislators want to ban foreign laws.  Does that mean a contract that is legally binding in another country cannot be enforced here?  If a married couple steps across an international border, are they still married?  If you rob someone in Canada, should you expect to escape prosecution here?  And those Canadians growing high quality pot, should we send federal agents or troops across the border to drag them back here for trial?

Guido oughta know.  Let's ask him. 

I've yet to hear an opposing party say to a court, Guido's argument is flawed. Then proceed with "[A]ccording to the Koran.....". Here's a link to an article discussing this  sort of statute for your amusement and to lessen your working knowledge of the import of primary/secondary legal authority and its application.  http://publicpolicyalliance.org/legislation/american-laws-for-american-courts/

I do have stories about pro se people and, yes, lawyers, quoting Biblical passages during hearings. Not a smart move.

[Townsend]

You are the leader in on-line time.
137d 17h 40m when I checked a few minutes ago.

Runs in the background while I'm at work.

[Vashta Nerada]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Federal_judge_throws_out_Oklahomas_ban_on_Sharia_law/20130815_11_0_OKLAHO915933?subj=11


This was the governor's platform.
May we please have another?

[Townsend]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Federal_judge_throws_out_Oklahomas_ban_on_Sharia_law/20130815_11_0_OKLAHO915933?subj=11


This was the governor's platform.
May we please have another?

So has the appeal been filed?

[heironymouspasparagus]

And it just literally stuns me to the point of breathlessness how Oklahoma collectively has no real clue as to the kind of laughing stock we are turning ourselves into with this kind of carp.

And now we have a special session called that WON'T do anything to put storm shelters in all the schools in this state!!  But we got the big 0.25% tax break!!

Yay, team!!

[guido911]

And it just literally stuns me to the point of breathlessness how Oklahoma collectively has no real clue as to the kind of laughing stock we are turning ourselves into with this kind of carp.

Just stop it, heiron. Oklahoma is nowhere near the laughing stock as New York (with Weiner & Spitzer), Michigan (with Detroit), California (you know, prop 8, Ahnuld, Maxine Waters & Filner), Florida (with just about everything), North Carolina (Sharia law and voting rights), Arizona (Gov. Brewer, Sheriff Joe--I like both, but still).

And the entirety of your post tells us that you don't like what's happening because OKC is not doing what you'd like. No reason to call Oklahoma a laughingstock because your ideas are in the minority.

Edited to add this gem, a congressidiot calling her own district in Florida racist.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/08/15/video-dem-rep-accuses-her-district-being-its-regular-racist-self

[Ed W]

Just stop it, heiron. Oklahoma is nowhere near the laughing stock as New York (with Weiner & Spitzer), Michigan (with Detroit), California (you know, prop 8, Ahnuld, Maxine Waters & Filner), Florida (with just about everything), North Carolina (Sharia law and voting rights), Arizona (Gov. Brewer, Sheriff Joe--I like both, but still).

And the entirety of your post tells us that you don't like what's happening because OKC is not doing what you'd like. No reason to call Oklahoma a laughingstock because your ideas are in the minority.

Edited to add this gem, a congressidiot calling her own district in Florida racist.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/08/15/video-dem-rep-accuses-her-district-being-its-regular-racist-self

Sure, Guido, but every place you named has a much greater population than Oklahoma. The odds favor them having a greater number of idiots. Oklahoma politicians outclass them on quality, however, with the exception of Anthony Weiner, a man who sticks out in any crowd. (Couldn't resist!)

[guido911]

Sure, Guido, but every place you named has a much greater population than Oklahoma. The odds favor them having a greater number of idiots. Oklahoma politicians outclass them on quality, however, with the exception of Anthony Weiner, a man who sticks out in any crowd. (Couldn't resist!)

Come on, that's a terrible argument, we are the pro rata laughingstock? If that's the case, then Delaware is the biggest laughingstock because it gave us this guy:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/joebiden/a/top-10-biden-quotes.htm

Or for you folks with PDS (Palin Derangement Syndrome), there's Alaska. And Kansas has an anti-Sharia law.






But your post did get me thinking about state by state population. Here's a, gulp, wiki link,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population

[custosnox]

Come on, that's a terrible argument, we are the pro rata laughingstock? If that's the case, then Delaware is the biggest laughingstock because it gave us this guy:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/joebiden/a/top-10-biden-quotes.htm

Or for you folks with PDS (Palin Derangement Syndrome), there's Alaska. And Kansas has an anti-Sharia law.






But your post did get me thinking about state by state population. Here's a, gulp, wiki link,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population

I spend way more time in comment sections of articles than I should, and when Oklahoma comes up on national, and especially international news sites, it seems there is a lot of ridicule in those comments.  Oklahoma and Texas seems to get laughed at way more than other states, and it centers on the fact that the legislation tries to pass some of the stupidest stuff out there, not because we have individual idiots who manage to become politicians.

[guido911]

I spend way more time in comment sections of articles than I should, and when Oklahoma comes up on national, and especially international news sites, it seems there is a lot of ridicule in those comments.  Oklahoma and Texas seems to get laughed at way more than other states, and it centers on the fact that the legislation tries to pass some of the stupidest stuff out there, not because we have individual idiots who manage to become politicians.

You need to "get out" more and look around. Oklahoma is a very, very red state. It's going to pass laws that will draw attention to it by states that are very very blue (and have media stationed there). Just think about this. Sure, Oklahoma has Sally Kern. NY has Spitzer & Weiner. Illinois? Blago. D.C. has Marion Barry. S.C. just put Mark Sanford in Congress. Hell, in Colorado there is an active secession movement. Who is more the laughingstock?

And want to know how bad it is in Florida. While I think his beef is way overstated, it is this bad:

http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2013/07/john-oliver-daily-show-calls-florida-worst-state

[custosnox]

You need to "get out" more and look around. Oklahoma is a very, very red state. It's going to pass laws that will draw attention to it by states that are very very blue (and have media stationed there). Just think about this. Sure, Oklahoma has Sally Kern. NY has Spitzer & Weiner. Illinois? Blago. D.C. has Marion Barry. S.C. just put Mark Sanford in Congress. Hell, in Colorado there is an active secession movement. Who is more the laughingstock?

And want to know how bad it is in Florida. While I think his beef is way overstated, it is this bad:

http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2013/07/john-oliver-daily-show-calls-florida-worst-state

Oh, I'm pretty sure that I "get out" plenty.  Doesn't excuse the stupidity of some of the laws that they try to pass here, like this Sharia law. 

[Hoss]

Oh, I'm pretty sure that I "get out" plenty.  Doesn't excuse the stupidity of some of the laws that they try to pass here, like this Sharia law. 

How about the 'ban the using of aborted fetuses in food' law that was proposed.  That was a mammoth Oklahoma facepalm moment.  I always love how the lawmaker who proposes such idiocy usually uses the excuse that he or she was just kidding and trying to make a point.

What point?  That many Oklahoma law makers are mindless rubes?  I don't think that point needs to be made anymore.  It's been made.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Just stop it, heiron. Oklahoma is nowhere near the laughing stock as New York (with Weiner & Spitzer), Michigan (with Detroit), California (you know, prop 8, Ahnuld, Maxine Waters & Filner), Florida (with just about everything), North Carolina (Sharia law and voting rights), Arizona (Gov. Brewer, Sheriff Joe--I like both, but still).

And the entirety of your post tells us that you don't like what's happening because OKC is not doing what you'd like. No reason to call Oklahoma a laughingstock because your ideas are in the minority.

Edited to add this gem, a congressidiot calling her own district in Florida racist.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/08/15/video-dem-rep-accuses-her-district-being-its-regular-racist-self

Yeah, we ARE a laughing stock...maybe if you talked to more people from other states??  I do...a LOT...

So, my ideas are the minority...well, that just shows how tragically inept the legislature truly is, and how abominable the leadership in that "august" body and the Governors office have been for many, many years.  The state is concerned about inanities while how many people die from tornadoes??  In the Moore schools, completely, totally, without exception, preventable!!  But hey, that would mean spending a little bit more on public schools...anathema to the RWRE so intent on dismantling public education.... and an "unwarranted government intrusion" into business in this state to modify building codes to require storm shelters on any new construction.  And God forbid we should go so far as to require retrofit.....  You know what the really sad thing is - that you are probably right - my idea that storm shelters should be put into every school IS the minority view!!

Not like the phrase "tornado alley" really amounts to anything, anyway....


You like Brewer?  What part of her regime do you like the best?  The part that was so focused on doing Federal job vis-a-vis illegals that she presided over a prison system joke that allowed 3 dangerous criminals to escape and kill two Oklahoma tourists a couple years ago??  (Sister and brother in law of a good friend).  Or the fact that she actively refused a direct offer of help from Obama during the wildfires where 19 firefighters were killed??  Sure, they may have died anyway, but what if some extra help would have prevented that?  More help is always better.

But this "person" cannot see anything past her own psychosis about being as rude as possible to Obama, to the point where there have been two questionable events in very recent history that have led to death and devastation.  While she continues whatever it is she is doing instead of what is right....


I wonder how a congressman calling the district racist compares to our Governor stating that teachers should be killed??  You remember Frank Keating, don't you?

[rebound]

It's not a per-capita argument, but rather a "what else have you got" argument.  OK looks ridiculous to the outside world because we don't have any other positive or interesting (again, to the outside world) stories to counter the various idiocies that we as a state produce.  CA, CO, NY, TX, etc,  all are much larger ecosystems and have lots of other attributes that balance out - to a certain degree - their various areas of stupidity.  We unfortunately don't.  To most of the rest of the US, "there is no there, there" as far as OK is concerned and all they hear about is the extreme examples set by some of our legislators, etc.  And once you are the butt of that joke a few times, it's hard to shake that reputation.

[cannon_fodder]

The State sponsored Protestant Ten Commandments monument is being challeneged and the most recent abortion law has just been suspended by the Courts.

Oklahoma has to pass more unconstitutional laws than any other state.  I though our true conservative legislature held the constitution in the but most regard?  Unless it doesn't serve their purpose.