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President Obama Gets Ripped For Oval Office Speech

Started by Conan71, June 16, 2010, 02:44:21 PM

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guido911

In other news, Obama is the worst president in the past 100 years:

http://www.usofearth.com/polls/?p=144


just for laughs.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

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Quote from: nathanm on June 16, 2010, 05:08:25 PM
I may be the only person in the country who watched the entirety of the speech,

I wouldn't bet my next paycheck on it if I were you.

 

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guido911

Obama's speech flopped because he is too gosh darned smart and we just cannot understand/comprehend him:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/16/obama.speech.analysis/
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on June 17, 2010, 11:47:43 AM
Obama's speech flopped because he is too gosh darned smart and we just cannot understand/comprehend him:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/16/obama.speech.analysis/
Either that person is insane or they are correct and the entire nation is a bunch of complete morons. I don't know how that speech could have been dumbed down any more. He gave no details, just broad outlines.
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Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on June 17, 2010, 01:27:58 PM
Either that person is insane or they are correct and the entire nation is a bunch of complete morons. I don't know how that speech could have been dumbed down any more. He gave no details, just broad outlines.

Nathan, I think that's the major indigestion issue everyone has with the speech.  57 days into the crisis, at least in most people's minds (including Olbermann and Matthews apparently) they were expecting more than vagaries, they wanted definititve answers and solutions so this was a bad mis-calculation on the administration.  It comes off as him being detached, un-prepared, or simply speaking because it was expected of him.

The other part is, his "I'm smarter than you" approach is wearing thin.  We aren't seeking the winner of an IQ contest amongst Presidents, we are seeking leadership and the speech wasn't what you'd expect to hear along those lines.
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nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on June 17, 2010, 02:17:32 PM
Nathan, I think that's the major indigestion issue everyone has with the speech.  57 days into the crisis, at least in most people's minds (including Olbermann and Matthews apparently) they were expecting more than vagaries, they wanted definititve answers and solutions so this was a bad mis-calculation on the administration.  It comes off as him being detached, un-prepared, or simply speaking because it was expected of him.

The other part is, his "I'm smarter than you" approach is wearing thin.  We aren't seeking the winner of an IQ contest amongst Presidents, we are seeking leadership and the speech wasn't what you'd expect to hear along those lines.
I see where you're coming from, I just don't agree. I think that if he had gone into great detail about the plans he would have been seen as even more professorial or whatever and it would have turned a perfectly decent 15 minute speech into a long and boring 45 minute speech.

Would it really have improved the speech to go on at length about the details of the new cap or the specifics of the supposed wetlands restoration plan (I'll believe that when I see it!)?

It seems like you're holding Obama to a standard that no President has ever met.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on June 17, 2010, 02:58:07 PM

It seems like you're holding Obama to a standard that no President has ever met.


Not at all.  He's simply not shown great leadership on this issue and you seem to be one of the very few who thinks he has.  I believe his leadership skills are finally being tested and he's not proving to be a very good leader.  I personally don't want this mess to get any worse down in the Gulf.  By all accounts, this administration has been agonizingly slow to accept foreign aid and has stood in the way of states being able to protect their coast lines.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

azbadpuppy

Quote from: Conan71 on June 17, 2010, 03:08:31 PM
Not at all.  He's simply not shown great leadership on this issue and you seem to be one of the very few who thinks he has.  I believe his leadership skills are finally being tested and he's not proving to be a very good leader.  I personally don't want this mess to get any worse down in the Gulf.  By all accounts, this administration has been agonizingly slow to accept foreign aid and has stood in the way of states being able to protect their coast lines.


Obama mentioned in his speech that he will be a "fierce advocate" for the residents of the Gulf.


Hmmm.....now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, back in December 2008.

"I am a fierce advocate for the Gay and lesbian community."- Barack Obama on the campaign trail


Now I'm really worried for those people...
 

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Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on June 18, 2010, 07:27:42 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindals-wishes-crude/story?id=10946379

Are you bucking kidding me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons that Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm that there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and then it had trouble contacting the people who built the barges."

And people wonder why it is I have very little faith in the government managing my healthcare.

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Conan71

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Quote from: azbadpuppy on June 17, 2010, 09:30:22 PM


"I am a fierce advocate for the Gay and lesbian community."- Barack Obama on the campaign trail



He never said that, he said he'd be a fierce advocate for the Happy and Lebanese communities.  Last I heard they weren't fairing very well either  ;)

 
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