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Started by TUalum0982, June 21, 2010, 04:49:22 PM

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TUalum0982

Didnt see this posted anywhere...but Sams club will be moving into Tulsa Hills.  Will be on the east side next to Target and Ulta.  Work should begin soon. 

I am actually excited about this....the other 2 locations are not anywhere near where we live.  Good to see them coming to Southwest Tulsa!!
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SXSW

I still don't understand why a SUPER Target wasn't built at Tulsa Hills.  That area needs a grocery store, and no Sam's Club doesn't count.   ;)

Those fields on either side of 71st between Tulsa Hills and Elwood will be filled with new homes in the next 5-10 years, and they will all have a Tulsa address. 
 

rwarn17588

Quote from: SXSW on June 21, 2010, 05:15:48 PM
I still don't understand why a SUPER Target wasn't built at Tulsa Hills.  That area needs a grocery store, and no Sam's Club doesn't count.   ;)


To be fair, the grocery area in Target is actually decent. Sure, it's not Reasor's. But It's not like it's totally bereft of a lot of different foodstuffs -- pretty good foodstuffs, I might add.

swake

Quote from: SXSW on June 21, 2010, 05:15:48 PM
I still don't understand why a SUPER Target wasn't built at Tulsa Hills.  That area needs a grocery store, and no Sam's Club doesn't count.   ;)

Those fields on either side of 71st between Tulsa Hills and Elwood will be filled with new homes in the next 5-10 years, and they will all have a Tulsa address. 

From what I heard, Target wanted the store to be a SuperTarget, but the developer had visions of Whole Foods and a bunch of other stores coming in and wouldn't give enough room to Target for a full superstore. Then the economy collapsed and now there's plenty of room, but the Target is built

Oh well.

bacjz00

I'm starting to think that developers actually don't like putting their stores in any area where folks aren't literally STUCK in traffic.   Seems a prerequisite for actually getting a "convenient" store (grocery, gasoline, pharmacy, etc.) is that you live in an area that is not only over-run with other residents, but overrun with cars and gridlock. 

Are retailers afraid that people will just blow right by a development like Tulsa Hills?  So sick of the "everything BUT a grocery store" developments we're getting over here.  By the time we fill Tulsa Hills up with places like Target and Sam's Club, why would a full-time grocer even want to locate there now?  To me, this is the nail in the coffin for any future chance at one.  Too much perceived competition in an area that's not "congested" enough.   Ugh...someone please help me understand this.
 

sgrizzle

Yes, Tulsa Hills was supposed to have a separate grocery store so they only allowed a regular target. There was also supposed to be a JC Penney where Sam's is going as well.

bacjz00

If this is true (which it sounds like it is), then the developers not only messed up, they got greedy.  I had always assumed that Target made that decision, but to think we actually turned THEM down.  Ouch, how does that feel now? 
 

Renaissance

They weren't the only ones.  The world looked a LOT different five years ago.

swake

There was (is?) a development going in on the SW corner of 81st and US75 that included a Wal-Mart neighborhood market. I personally don't consider that a decent grocery store, but it is a store. I have no idea if this development is still happening or not. There's certainly no work going on.

The new Reasor's at 101st and Elm(Peoria) in Jenks is only a few miles away and is a great store.

Hoss

Quote from: swake on June 22, 2010, 08:53:50 AM
There was (is?) a development going in on the SW corner of 81st and US75 that included a Wal-Mart neighborhood market. I personally don't consider that a decent grocery store, but it is a store. I have no idea if this development is still happening or not. There's certainly no work going on.

The new Reasor's at 101st and Elm(Peoria) in Jenks is only a few miles away and is a great store.

I'd be curious to know why you don't think the neighborhood markets are decent.  My favorite one is the one at 21st and Yale and I love that store.  It's clean and laid out where thought actually appears to have factored in.

Reasors, while I do like their meat section, is WAY too expensive, comparatively speaking.  Although if other places don't have a specialty item, odds are that Reasor's does.  Their pricing just reminds me too much of Albertson's when they were here.  I'd rather go to Warehouse Market when I'm doing 'small shopping'.  I usually go to WMNM when I'm doing my semi-monthly shopping.

bmuscotty

If I remember right didn't the plans call for a movie theater there to? Also read not to long ago that a Whataburger and a Cracker Barrel were going in also.
 

Hoss

Quote from: bmuscotty on June 22, 2010, 09:37:48 AM
If I remember right didn't the plans call for a movie theater there to? Also read not to long ago that a Whataburger and a Cracker Barrel were going in also.

That was likely before the 'downturn'...

swake

Quote from: Hoss on June 22, 2010, 09:24:31 AM
I'd be curious to know why you don't think the neighborhood markets are decent.  My favorite one is the one at 21st and Yale and I love that store.  It's clean and laid out where thought actually appears to have factored in.

Reasors, while I do like their meat section, is WAY too expensive, comparatively speaking.  Although if other places don't have a specialty item, odds are that Reasor's does.  Their pricing just reminds me too much of Albertson's when they were here.  I'd rather go to Warehouse Market when I'm doing 'small shopping'.  I usually go to WMNM when I'm doing my semi-monthly shopping.

Now, I think I have only ever been in the Neighborhood Markets on Brookside and at 96th and Delaware maybe other stores are better, but I doubt it. I will say the employees in Neighborhood Markets are much better than the ones in Supercenters. I always seem to end up angry in a Supercenter at the wait times and the general filth of the stores and the distain the employees seem to have for customers. The Markets are better at taking care of customers and the stores than the Supercenters.

My problems really start with the selection of items in general at Neighborhood Markets. They have a very limited selection; they don't stock many of the items we buy at all. Neighborhood Markets don't stock any good cheeses at all and everything from the deli counter is completely void of flavor. Wal-Mart pumps so much water into their meats that when you cook burger for instance you are boiling the meat because so much water is flowing out of it. I guess the chicken is fine, it's just Tyson chicken I believe, but the steaks and other meats are just plain bad. I have seen fruits and vegetables on multiple occasions that are literally rotting on in the bins with little gnats flying all around them. That's beyond the sour grapes that go bad in one day and the flavorless tomatoes. Add to that again a very limited selection of produce and meats.

Decent service in a kinda of clean store with poor selection, bad meats and produce don't make up for kinda cheep prices. It's not a good store, it's better than the Supercenters, but then they are just plain awful in every way possible.

I don't have an issue with Reasor's prices; they are a little higher, but not bad. I think Food Pyramid is high for what you get and Whole Foods certainly has high prices. I don't ever for to Warehouse Market, so I don't know what they have. We go to Reasor's and Target and then Whole Foods for items you can't get at Reasor's, which with the new store in Jenks is not much anymore.

nathanm

Quote from: swake on June 22, 2010, 09:55:54 AM
My problems really start with the selection of items in general at Neighborhood Markets. They have a very limited selection; they don't stock many of the items we buy at all. Neighborhood Markets don't stock any good cheeses at all and everything from the deli counter is completely void of flavor. Wal-Mart pumps so much water into their meats that when you cook burger for instance you are boiling the meat because so much water is flowing out of it. I guess the chicken is fine, it's just Tyson chicken I believe, but the steaks and other meats are just plain bad. I have seen fruits and vegetables on multiple occasions that are literally rotting on in the bins with little gnats flying all around them. That's beyond the sour grapes that go bad in one day and the flavorless tomatoes. Add to that again a very limited selection of produce and meats.

That's essentially what I was going to write. Also, after the time I went into the store at 81st and Sheridan some years back looking for plantains (Albertson's was out) not only did they not have any, but the produce area smelled of urine.

That and I'm not going to spend any money at Wal-Mart (at least when I have a choice) until they start paying their employees enough that they don't have to be on welfare. All you're doing when you shop there is exchanging money paid for product for money paid in taxes.
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Conan71

Quote from: swake on June 22, 2010, 09:55:54 AM
Now, I think I have only ever been in the Neighborhood Markets on Brookside and at 96th and Delaware maybe other stores are better, but I doubt it. I will say the employees in Neighborhood Markets are much better than the ones in Supercenters. I always seem to end up angry in a Supercenter at the wait times and the general filth of the stores and the distain the employees seem to have for customers. The Markets are better at taking care of customers and the stores than the Supercenters.

My problems really start with the selection of items in general at Neighborhood Markets. They have a very limited selection; they don't stock many of the items we buy at all. Neighborhood Markets don't stock any good cheeses at all and everything from the deli counter is completely void of flavor. Wal-Mart pumps so much water into their meats that when you cook burger for instance you are boiling the meat because so much water is flowing out of it. I guess the chicken is fine, it's just Tyson chicken I believe, but the steaks and other meats are just plain bad. I have seen fruits and vegetables on multiple occasions that are literally rotting on in the bins with little gnats flying all around them. That's beyond the sour grapes that go bad in one day and the flavorless tomatoes. Add to that again a very limited selection of produce and meats.

Decent service in a kinda of clean store with poor selection, bad meats and produce don't make up for kinda cheep prices. It's not a good store, it's better than the Supercenters, but then they are just plain awful in every way possible.

I don't have an issue with Reasor's prices; they are a little higher, but not bad. I think Food Pyramid is high for what you get and Whole Foods certainly has high prices. I don't ever for to Warehouse Market, so I don't know what they have. We go to Reasor's and Target and then Whole Foods for items you can't get at Reasor's, which with the new store in Jenks is not much anymore.


Most processed chicken products seem to have between 5 and 15% of "added solution" when I read the labels in the store.  It's a dead ringer on any frozen products.  It seems to vary from chicken broth to a simple brine solution, to having phosphate or maltodextrose (or dextrin...whatever).  Your safest bet, if you can stand the idea of cutting up chicken in your own kitchen is to buy whole birds and trim them out yourself.  I've never thought to see how much some place like Harvard Meats would charge to do that.

I've become a serious food additive phobe, and it seems to be paying dividends.  Since I've gotten more disciplined about avoiding highly processed foods, my allergies are much improved (I've had a great allergy year while others around me have suffered), I no longer take a sleep medication, I've got pretty stable energy levels throughout the day, and I've dropped about 15 pounds.  I've not seriously altered my exercize habits nor intake, I simply eat more whole foods prepared at home and eat out less.  It's amazing how much the additional additives in food can affect the human body.  The hardest part is making time to eat right.
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