Listen Up Jack-Wagons! New Geico Commercial

[dbacks fan]

I think the guy at the begining of these commercials would be perfect as a detective in a film noir setting, a cross between Humprhey Bogart and Robert Mitchum.

[Townsend]

I think the guy at the begining of these commercials would be perfect as a detective in a film noir setting, a cross between Humprhey Bogart and Robert Mitchum.

Mike McGlone

Saw him in a few movies in the '90's.  The Brothers McMullen was one I liked alot.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0569458/

[dbacks fan]

Mike McGlone

Saw him in a few movies in the '90's.  The Brothers McMullen was one I liked alot.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0569458/

Thanks for the info.

[guido911]

Ermey dumps on Obama (2:30):

[Ed W]

Like any other American actor, Ermey is entitled to speak his mind.  But if he were still in the Marine Corps, he'd have to shut his mouth and carry out his orders, orders which presumably could originate with that civilian atop the chain of command, the commander in chief. 

I firmly believe the right is entitled to more than one heavy hitter like Steven Baldwin.

[guido911]

Like any other American actor and highly decorated war veteran, Ermey is entitled to speak his mind.  But if he were still in the Marine Corps, he'd have to shut his mouth and carry out his orders, orders which presumably could originate with that civilian atop the chain of command, the commander in chief.  

I firmly believe the right is entitled to more than one heavy hitter like Steven Baldwin.

Fixed it for you. Oh, and "shut his mouth"? Is that what leftie first amendmenters are all about?

[RecycleMichael]

My marine-for-life brother-in-law was at my home over the holidays and he says the military is happy with President Obama.

His reason is that the Pentagon has been given the two largest budgets in history under Obama and that the top leadership slected or kept by Obama are all the right ones.

I was surprised to hear that because he usually rants about my crazy liberal politicians.

[Ed W]

Have you noticed, Guido, that active service military personnel studiously avoid discussing politics in public?  They generally remain mum until they're no longer in the military.  Now, from over here on the left end of the political spectrum, it's troublesome that they have to give up their free speech rights as part of their government service.

Baldwin and Ermey have the same right to speak their minds that you and I enjoy.  But their positions as actors, and in Ermey's case, a decorated veteran, doesn't mean their opinions carry more weight that your's or mine.  There's a name for that particular fallacy, though it escapes me just now.

Are you suggesting that active military personnel should be permitted to criticize their commander in chief in a public forum?  If so, I'd be very surprised.  Like I said, it's troublesome that they have restricted free speech rights, but perhaps someone with more direct experience with the military will comment on that.  

[Red Arrow]

 Now, from over here on the left end of the political spectrum, it's troublesome that they have to give up their free speech rights as part of their government service.

To some extent, everyone gives up their right to criticize their boss unless they are willing to find a new job.  The military has a bit of a "disadvantage" in that they have given up their constitutional rights and agreed to be subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).  At least that is what they told me in boot camp. Sometimes it can work to a servicepersons advantage.

[Red Arrow]

My marine-for-life brother-in-law

The way I understand it is that Officers are "for life" with a few exceptions in any of the services.  Enlisted are usually given a discharge, hopefully honorable, and are not subject to recall except under the most dire circumstances. The Marines have a brotherhood above and beyond the law to be Marines for life but I don't think it is actually a legal obligation.

[Hoss]

The way I understand it is that Officers are "for life" with a few exceptions in any of the services.  Enlisted are usually given a discharge, hopefully honorable, and are not subject to recall except under the most dire circumstances. The Marines have a brotherhood above and beyond the law to be Marines for life but I don't think it is actually a legal obligation.

A female supervisor of mine many years ago was a Major in the Marine Corps.  She was in the reserve, but not active duty.  I never asked the details of her leaving the Corps, but I'm guessing that she wasn't a 'lifer'.  Explained to me that, at least back in the late 90s, once you were no longer active duty, then you served as a reservist for 16 years, which means essentially the same as a reservist for the police force.  She didn't have to do what the Guard does, and go to training once a year.  I believe she was out from active duty after 6 years, by my math, but, as I said, I never asked her about it.  She never wore her service to her country on her sleeve, unlike some (ok, one) in here that do and feels it empowers them.

[patric]

Like any other American actor, Ermey is entitled to speak his mind.

I guess he has the same rights as Jane Fonda...
But as far as professional decorum, even past commander-in-chiefs dont even dump on sitting ones.

[custosnox]

it makes me think of my step-dad, the ex-marine.  I had made a comment about our President, and his response was "He's not my President".  He really didn't like it when I responded, "Oh, so you renounce your citizenship? Excellent!"

[Red Arrow]

A female supervisor of mine many years ago was a Major in the Marine Corps.  She was in the reserve, but not active duty.  I never asked the details of her leaving the Corps, but I'm guessing that she wasn't a 'lifer'.  Explained to me that, at least back in the late 90s, once you were no longer active duty, then you served as a reservist for 16 years, which means essentially the same as a reservist for the police force.  She didn't have to do what the Guard does, and go to training once a year.  I believe she was out from active duty after 6 years, by my math, but, as I said, I never asked her about it.  She never wore her service to her country on her sleeve, unlike some (ok, one) in here that do and feels it empowers them.

I was enlisted so I am not positive but....

The way I understand it is that even though an Officer is not on active duty, they are subject to recall at any time (not sure of the details) since they are not discharged from the service, they just don't have a present commission.

My obligation was for 6 years, 4 years active duty, 2 years inactive duty (no weekends etc).  I received my honorable discharge about 1 yr and 9 months after I finished active duty since I went in on a delayed entry program.  I signed up but did not report for boot camp for 3 months.

[Breadburner]

Some of you are completely burnt up....