Local urban legends

[dbacks fan]

So the Ma-Hu property itself is still vacant land?  I had no idea.  I just figured the whole area was built up now.

That area will remain vacant. It was written into the original purchase agreement that the area would be a buffer between what was developed and the existing neighborhood. That's what was part of the reason the land sat vacant so long. All of the original developers wanted to run a street connecting my neighborhood to Memorial at the light at 27th. IIRC The neighborhood took it all the way to COT planning and development and the commisioners to prevent the street from being built.

[Conan71]

That area will remain vacant. It was written into the original purchase agreement that the area would be a buffer between what was developed and the existing neighborhood. That's what was part of the reason the land sat vacant so long. All of the original developers wanted to run a street connecting my neighborhood to Memorial at the light at 27th. IIRC The neighborhood took it all the way to COT planning and development and the commisioners to prevent the street from being built.

Is Johansen Acres directly to the north or something else inbetween?  I love Johansen for the ranch homes and giant lots.

[dbacks fan]

Is Johansen Acres directly to the north or something else inbetween?  I love Johansen for the ranch homes and giant lots.

Primarily north but the area to the west is also part of it. My dad always complained about the fact that the homes on 24th and 25th did not have storm drains in the streets and the way the land lays out it runs down hill from the MacArthur/Whitney area south east to where the pond was and then runs behind the houses on 28th street to the north side of I-44 and Memorial. The flooding in 74, and the big flood in 84 was proof of that. I think before all of that was developed it ran from I-44 and Memorial down past Skelly Jr High, and eventually into Mingo Creek north of 31st where it crosses Mingo Creek.



Everything north, south and west drains down to 31st and Memorial and then heads east to Mingo Creek.

31st and Memorial the morning after the Memorial Day flood in 1984:

[Hoss]

Primarily north but the area to the west is also part of it. My dad always complained about the fact that the homes on 24th and 25th did not have storm drains in the streets and the way the land lays out it runs down hill from the MacArthur/Whitney area south east to where the pond was and then runs behind the houses on 28th street to the north side of I-44 and Memorial. The flooding in 74, and the big flood in 84 was proof of that. I think before all of that was developed it ran from I-44 and Memorial down past Skelly Jr High, and eventually into Mingo Creek north of 31st where it crosses Mingo Creek.



Everything north, south and west drains down to 31st and Memorial and then heads east to Mingo Creek.

31st and Memorial the morning after the Memorial Day flood in 1984:

Heavens, that brings back some memories.  My cousin and I were out and about during that thing, and he lived at 36th/Memorial at the time.  We got out about 1am and couldn't get back to his house from west of that intersection, so we took the Skelly to the BA and got off at the Memorial exit.  Stayed in the rest of the night, watched Gary Shore talk about 'backbuilding' all night long.  My dad's truck used to be in some of the old KJRH spots after that, when they would show his truck flooded out with a hardhat floating inside of the cab.  He was working at Sunoco Refinery at the time.

[dbacks fan]

This is the only other pic of mine I have acces to from that day, it's the QT that was at 7th and Sheridan.



The clock in the back i can sort of make out, it was either 2:15am or 3:10am when it stopped.

And now. I know at one time it was the Palmer Drug Abuse Program.

[Hoss]

This is the only other pic of mine I have acces to from that day, it's the QT that was at 7th and Sheridan.



The clock in the back i can sort of make out, it was either 2:15am or 3:10am when it stopped.

And now. I know at one time it was the Palmer Drug Abuse Program.

Wow, I totally forgot that QT was at 7th/Sheridan.

I wasn't with my parents (I had just turned 17 when the flood happened) and our house is my current house (the one just behind Vegas Club about three blocks).  Missed water coming in the front door by about 1 inch or less.  I remember them the following years dredging up Mingo Creek to widen it for the flood mitigation.

[azbadpuppy]

Does anyone remember the story about a worker getting their finger cut off at the Bama Pie plant?

As the story goes, supposedly the finger was never found and was suspected of going into one of the small pies. Pecan, I think?

I would never eat those little Bama Pies in the school cafeteria due to this story.

Is there any validity to this urban legend?

[dbacks fan]

Does anyone remember the story about a worker getting their finger cut off at the Bama Pie plant?

As the story goes, supposedly the finger was never found and was suspected of going into one of the small pies. Pecan, I think?

I would never eat those little Bama Pies in the school cafeteria due to this story.

Is there any validity to this urban legend?

Good way to get back on topic. I remember that one, but I can't remember if it was true or not.

Here is a link to th website with the person who could solve this urban legend. CEO of Bama Pies, Paula Marshall.(Wonder if theres a connection to Marshall's Beer?)

http://paulaamarshallblog.squarespace.com/

[Cats Cats Cats]

Nothing like the "entrepreneurism" of inheriting the family business.

[bugo]

This is a great thread.  As a non-native, it's a good way to learn the local folklore and find some interesting places to check out.

[everelusive]

This is a very cool thread.  I am very much interested in local history, and I appreciate alot of the info that has been shared here.  

Does anyone have any info regarding the property west of Yale starting about a block south of 68th street that continues South to the business park, and goes west for 4-5 blocks?  It's easily visable as a large wooded area on Google earth.   There is a long ago abandoned  rock gate to the property on Yale (west side).  I remember my Dad taking me there some 20 years ago and there was the remains of very large house (mansion?) at that time (mid-late 1980's).

Does anyone have any more info about the history of this property?

[Red Arrow]

Nothing like the "entrepreneurism" of inheriting the family business.

Just because someone inherits something doesn't necessarily make them incapable of running a business successfully.  Would you have rather had Bama shut down and sold off for pieces?  That could have been an option.

Oh, excuse me.  I forgot there are people that think that a person should have no say in the fruits of their life's labor after they pass on.

[custosnox]

Come on guys, no need to start bickering on this thread.  It's been going good, no need to let it disintegrate.

everelusive, give it a bit, I'm sure someone will be able to tell you something. 

[Red Arrow]

Come on guys, no need to start bickering on this thread.  It's been going good, no need to let it disintegrate.

Sorry about that.

[dbacks fan]

Good way to get back on topic. I remember that one, but I can't remember if it was true or not.

Here is a link to th website with the person who could solve this urban legend. CEO of Bama Pies, Paula Marshall.(Wonder if theres a connection to Marshall's Beer?)

http://paulaamarshallblog.squarespace.com/

So I emailed Eric Marshall to see if he was related, and I loved his response. He asked me if I was related to Ted Nugent. So no connection.