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Started by Gaspar, August 16, 2010, 02:08:39 PM

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Gaspar

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 27, 2010, 12:31:27 PM
So we will have to wait and see how Beck does with it.  Any bets??

Do you think maybe he is looking at the success of the Freedom Alliance and may be wanting to get his own 'gravy train' started?

None of these people are anywhere near the stature of Ghandi, ML King, or Billy Graham.  And yet, the RWRE have made rock stars of them.  Not just strange, but bizarre.



I've probably watched a total of less than 10 minutes of Beck, and most of that on Youtube clips sent to me by friends & family.  I've seen him be ridiculous, and mock-emotional, but I doubt he would ever be disrespectful.  I think he would lose quite a bit of following if he was.  He tends to appeal to the hardcore Regan Republican crowd.

My mother wanted to attend the event, but as of early this week, she couldn't get a hotel room any closer than  Virginia.  I just had lunch with her and she said the whole event is in response to the students that were told to  stop singing the national anthem at the monument back in June.

I remember that story, it was much to-do about nothing as I recall.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

#331
Quote from: swake on August 27, 2010, 12:39:02 PM
Did you read this?


QuoteMy father championed free speech. He would be the first to say that those participating in Beck's rally have the right to express their views. But his dream rejected hateful rhetoric and all forms of bigotry or discrimination, whether directed at race, faith, nationality, sexual orientation or political beliefs. He envisioned a world where all people would recognize one another as sisters and brothers in the human family. Throughout his life he advocated compassion for the poor, nonviolence, respect for the dignity of all people and peace for humanity

Yes I did, but he is not calling anyone hateful. He says that his father's dream rejected hateful rhetoric, and I think we can all happily agree with that.  I think perhaps he may be offering a gentle reminder, but certainly not angry disagreement.

He does structure this paragraph so that the reader can assign his own meaning derived from his own philosophy and it seems that you have done so.

BTW, you have the best Avatar ever!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

heironymouspasparagus

King III was not blasting Beck in his article.  He was making a positive point about what his father stood for, not tearing down anyone/anything else.  That is probably what impressed me most about that article.  He seems to have gotten a lot from his old man.  (I wish Billy Graham's son had done so well!  I admit it, I am a fan of Billy's - but not junior.)



As for Beck losing following, well if that were true, no one would listen to him or Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, or Limbaugh.  Or Levine, Drudge, or Palin.  Or Barney Frank, Marion Barry, or Richard Daley.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 27, 2010, 12:54:02 PM
King III was not blasting Beck in his article.  He was making a positive point about what his father stood for, not tearing down anyone/anything else.  That is probably what impressed me most about that article.  He seems to have gotten a lot from his old man.  (I wish Billy Graham's son had done so well!  I admit it, I am a fan of Billy's - but not junior.)


Amen brother!

I have always been impressed with MLKJ III.  His thought process is always focused on building bridges, even when confronted in interviews with total morons. 
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

guido911

Quote from: swake on August 27, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
TNo, the family does not support Beck, one random Pro Life activist niece does:

Do you have a problem with pro-life activists?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Quote from: guido911 on August 27, 2010, 01:57:32 PM
Do you have a problem with pro-life activists?

I wonder what Dr. King's opinion would be?
;)
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

I can only hope that Beck avoids some of his more hateful schtick. If he doesn't, that's OK, too. He has the right to say whatever stupid things he wants to, no matter how much I or anybody else disagree. I think the entire idea that it dishonors Dr. King's memory for Glenn Beck to speak there is as silly as the one about the mosque. If Beck had been one of the folks leading the charge against the community center, it would show some blatant hypocrisy, but he hasn't been, as far as I know. At worst it's thoughtless.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on August 27, 2010, 03:36:11 PM
I can only hope that Beck avoids some of his more hateful schtick. If he doesn't, that's OK, too. He has the right to say whatever stupid things he wants to, no matter how much I or anybody else disagree. I think the entire idea that it dishonors Dr. King's memory for Glenn Beck to speak there is as silly as the one about the mosque. If Beck had been one of the folks leading the charge against the community center, it would show some blatant hypocrisy, but he hasn't been, as far as I know. At worst it's thoughtless.

I hope he doesn't show up drunk.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

joiei

Poor Peckerwood,  no one understands that he thinks he is the KING OF THE WORLD. 
It's hard being a Diamond in a rhinestone world.

Red Arrow

I only catch Glen Beck on an occasional basis.  I guess I should watch regularly so I can certain that he is hateful rather than merely presenting a view from a different perspective. A recent show presented data indicating that JFK and family and LBJ were not always so friendly to the Civil Rights Movement.  I actually remember it being somewhat that way.  I only remember Ike as President but don't really remember anything significant from the era.  I do remember "Colored" and "White Only" water fountains and rest rooms on the way to FL from PA in the early 60s.
 

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

Did either LaRussa or Pujols know why they were there or who they were talking to?  Those speeches were pretty generic. 

heironymouspasparagus

We had those "Colored only" signs in Tulsa, too, when I was growing up (4 -5 yr old).  There was a drug store around 4th or 5th, I think one block west of Main...  Mom took us in the front, even when parked down the side of the building where the sign was, since we weren't allowed to use that door.  I thought it was unfair that I had to walk all that extra distance around the front when the door was right there....it was a long way at 4.

I didn't understand until many years later...
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Cats Cats Cats


custosnox

Quote from: Trogdor on August 29, 2010, 10:02:19 PM
http://www.americablog.com/2010/08/tennessee-mosque-fire-ruled-as-arson.html

They torched the construction equipment of the Tennessee mosque.
They should have been more sensative to those who would be effected by their building it...