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Started by sgrizzle, August 25, 2010, 09:52:25 AM

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Is this building a house, or is it a garage?

House
9 (56.3%)
Garage
7 (43.8%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: October 24, 2010, 09:52:25 AM

Conan71

LOL, that was my thought too, Dolfan...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

PonderInc

You can see better pictures in the BOA packet:
http://www.cityoftulsa-boa.org/boa/boa-21108.pdf

This is an interesting ruling on several fronts...

1. If this were in a commercial district, the tiny residence above the garage would be illegal as an accessory dwelling unit in CH zoning. (Or did they finally change that goofy rule?)

2. There used to be a lot of barns throughout Tulsa that have been destroyed to make room for...uh... homes with multiple car garages.

3.  It almost sounds like the BOA was not judging this one based on principal use...since only 741 SF is dedicated to the living space, and 4,500 SF is dedicated for auto storage/display.  Does this mean that they will open their minds to mixed-use concepts and form-based codes in the future?

patric

Quote from: PonderInc on August 26, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
You can see better pictures in the BOA packet:
http://www.cityoftulsa-boa.org/boa/boa-21108.pdf

I think the clincher was all the letters from people claiming to be neighbors showing their approval.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

sgrizzle

Quote from: PonderInc on August 26, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
You can see better pictures in the BOA packet:
http://www.cityoftulsa-boa.org/boa/boa-21108.pdf

3.  It almost sounds like the BOA was not judging this one based on principal use...since only 741 SF is dedicated to the living space, and 4,500 SF is dedicated for auto storage/display.  Does this mean that they will open their minds to mixed-use concepts and form-based codes in the future?

From the homeowner's side it sounds like the whole space is a residence, 741 SF is an upstairs bedroom and the bottom floor is a living room/loft arrangement.

DolfanBob

Thanks for those pictures Ponder. You need to add another choice at the top of this post, cause dude. Thats a Barn.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

dbacks fan

Interesting article from cnbc about the death of the "McMansion" coinciding with people taking a realistic look at home sizes. Like I said in a previos post looking at that area on google streets it has lost the style it was originally built as. I find this home/barn pleasing compared to what has been built there recently.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38757287

waterboy

To me it looks like a barn. But what it is legally seems to have been determined correctly. It certainly is not offensive. I guess some folks are just more easily disturbed than others.

heironymouspasparagus

In an effort to introduce some measure of creativity back into the housing equation, I offer this example of rational home thought and planning.

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/


Now, maybe if we just average the two ends together and end up somewhere in the middle, sanity will ensue!!
Hey, that sounds like a good recipe for political discourse, too!!  The extremes are always bad.



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Gaspar

#23
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 27, 2010, 12:45:36 PM
In an effort to introduce some measure of creativity back into the housing equation, I offer this example of rational home thought and planning.

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/


Now, maybe if we just average the two ends together and end up somewhere in the middle, sanity will ensue!!
Hey, that sounds like a good recipe for political discourse, too!!  The extremes are always bad.



Ever try to play Wii in 89sf of space.  Not gonna happen.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

heironymouspasparagus

Ah, yes, Grasshopper - that is true.  But the middle ground will allow the Wii and the rational use of space!  A philosophy of moderation, contemplation, and peace of mind!



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 27, 2010, 12:56:05 PM
Ah, yes, Grasshopper - that is true.  But the middle ground will allow the Wii and the rational use of space!  A philosophy of moderation, contemplation, and peace of mind!


I'm lucky enough to be an American, so I don't have to put up with that Sh!t.  ;)

I just have to put up with the winey little bings that constantly preach it.  I used to work with a bunch of architects that extolled the virtue of designs that no one would ever buy (outside of Tokyo).  Funny how they all live in big South Tulsa homes.

Give me my space, my pool, and a big yard for the kids to play in.  ;D

I have a recliner that is bigger than that house.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

heironymouspasparagus

Ah, yes... praying to the gods of conspicuous consumption!
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Red Arrow

#27
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 27, 2010, 12:45:36 PM
In an effort to introduce some measure of creativity back into the housing equation, I offer this example of rational home thought and planning.

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/


Now, maybe if we just average the two ends together and end up somewhere in the middle, sanity will ensue!!
Hey, that sounds like a good recipe for political discourse, too!!  The extremes are always bad.

I think I had more personal space than that when I was on temporary duty (Carrier Quals) as an enlisted guy on the JFK Aircraft Carrier.  You can keep it.

Edit: had to get my response out of the quote field.
 

heironymouspasparagus

Definitely not for everyone, including me.  Hence the comment about a middle road.
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.