Hey, It's His First Amendment Right...Right?

[guido911]

Does a death penalty for gays not count as extremist?

In my mind the death penalty for anyone is extreme. To answer your question, it sure is extreme--but it's not terrorism. So is stoning women for adultery and any other vile penalty for personal/moral choices. But that is what this Islamic Republic of Iran as a sovereign nation has decided what is illegal in their country.

[Conan71]

So you don't think that mass murdering and conscripting children to fight is as bad as what extremist Muslims do? There is an equivalence there, but with both religions, the extremists make up a small minority of their adherents. Both extremist groups are just as nutty. Sorry you are unable to see that.

The extremists in Islam may be a very small percentage but they are very powerful and have run and are running entire governments.

[guido911]

The extremists in Islam may be a very small percentage but they are very powerful and have run and are running entire governments.

That is exactly my point. If Eric Rudolph or Fred Phelps or any other "Christian" nut was our president, or even senate/house leaders, and was issuing death fatwas against those burning Bibles, a reasonable comparison can be made. Instead, we have an overwhelming (and I would  hope universal) number of people in this country, and I dare say many are in fact, gulp, Christian, condemning Rudolph and Phelps. Can the same be said of an overwhelming or universal number of Muslims in Iran condemning the not-so-grand ayatollahs? How about in this country?

[nathanm]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932010_Iranian_election_protests

Many, if not most, Iranians despise the Ayatollahs in a similar way that Iraqis despised Saddam.

[guido911]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932010_Iranian_election_protests

Many, if not most, Iranians despise the Ayatollahs in a similar way that Iraqis despised Saddam.

Despising someone is not remotely the same as condemning their actions. And what about my point about Muslim outrage over the fatwas in this country?

[Red Arrow]

You think that all the Muslim leaders are in favor of terrorism, or was that supposed to be an attempt at humor rather than a sarcastic rebuttal?

A little exaggeration to catch your attention.  The way I see it is that there are a significant number of Muslim leaders with followers numbering significantly more than 50 issuing these fatwahs.  Assuming it is true that the majority of Muslims are what we would like them to be,  they have a serious PR problem in the USA and I see very little attempt to correct that perception.  One person I know that has been to the Middle East frequently told me that attempts by mainstream Muslims to correct that image have been thwarted by our mainstream media (ABC, NBC, CBS). 

[Townsend]

So he "supervised" the burning of a Koran last month.  Well done.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/03/21/134743260/controversial-florida-pastor-reneges-and-supervises-burning-of-quran



Well now, during a protest of the burning in Afghanistan, 7 or 8 people are reportedly killed.  Nice job Terry.  Jackass.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/04/01/135039030/reports-u-n-workers-killed-in-afghanistan-during-protest-of-quran-burning?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[guido911]

It's this idiot's fault that those people were killed? I guess those actually doing the killing and why had nothing to do with it. This same sorta crap went on after the bogus Koran flushing story.

I guess burning flags, burning people in effigy, burning Korans or any other act of free speech should all be unlawful because of the effect it may have on dooshbags living in the 9-10 centuries.

[Townsend]

It's this idiot's fault that those people were killed? I guess those actually doing the killing and why had nothing to do with it. This same sorta crap went on after the bogus Koran flushing story.

I guess burning flags, burning people in effigy, burning Korans or any other act of free speech should all be unlawful because of the effect it may have on dooshbags living in the 9-10 centuries.

Would they be gathered against a book burning that never happened?

One religious nut pushing other religious nuts.

It's disturbing that you think it's ok.

[Red Arrow]

Would they be gathered against a book burning that never happened?
One religious nut pushing other religious nuts.
It's disturbing that you think it's ok.

All the religions need to lighten up a bit.

[guido911]

Would they be gathered against a book burning that never happened?

One religious nut pushing other religious nuts.

It's disturbing that you think it's ok.

Who in the hell said I thought it was okay. I said he was an idiot. And where were you when this "book abuse" was going on under Bush? And btw, if I was moronic enough to burn a religious book, my recovery excuse would be to say it was "art" and compare it to this:



What really is disturbing is your selective belief in the First Amendment. Maybe it shouldn't be.

[guido911]

All the religions need to lighten up a bit.

They should, but in reading this thread, the one about the Christmas parade, and all those about Oklahoma buckle/Bible nonsense the only religion folks in here want lightened up is Christianity. Hell, we have one thread going where a cop didn't want to go to an event at a mosque for religious reasons and he's call a hater.

And no, I am not saying that we Christians are being persecuted or any other cutesy snide remark.

[Townsend]

And where were you when this "book abuse" was going on under Bush?

What are you talking about?

What really is disturbing is your selective belief in the First Amendment. Maybe it shouldn't be.

What are you talking about?

The jackass should have the right but shouldn't pull the trigger.  He's crazed by his beliefs and too stupid to realize the repercussions.

[Townsend]

if I was moronic enough to burn a religious book, my recovery excuse would be to say it was "art" and compare it to this:

My opinion is piss is not art.  But I don't appreciate several types of art.

If this is your best example, you need to work on it.

Our boy in Florida burned the Koran because he decided to make himself the decider and pit his form of Christianity against Islam.

The Piss Christ guy didn't go gross because he was religious.  He was trying to garner attention for his "art".  He also didn't destroy anything.  He just dunked it in waste fluid.

[guido911]

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

The jackass should have the right but shouldn't pull the trigger.  He's crazed by his beliefs and too stupid to realize the repercussions.

I was talking about the Koran flushing story at Gitmo in 2005. As for this zealot's stupidity, while I agree, I noticed you still haven't condemned the actual killers. You make it sound the Koran burning was worse than murder.