Voting for democrats will help Oklahoma's economy

[Red Arrow]

Why wouldn't it be worth it?

You only vote for people with R in front of their name?

OK, I have to ask...

You only vote for people with D in front (or after) their name?

If the Republicans are as bad as you insinuate (and some are), what damage would even worse Democrats do before we could have both parties nominate "quality" candidates.  Too big a risk in general.   For the record, I have voted for a few notable Democrats such as David Boren when he was senator.  There was a time in Oklahoma around the 70s that a vote for a Republican was merely a chance to exercise your right to complain about the winner.  At least in local and state elections that was mostly true.

[Red Arrow]

So are you suggesting we need a Democratic version of the teabaggers? 

Wevus,

Wonder why some Republicans and Tea Party people purposely say Democrat instead of Democratic?

[Hoss]

Let's keep in mind people, that it was the Tea Party's own fault for the term "Tea Bagger".  They coined it themselves.  So when Gweed gets all redfaced and has to extract his panties from his a$$crack, it's not really justified.

It was penned in April of 2009 pretty much, when they asked organizers to send Washington a message on Tax Day, and "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You."

So all you right-wing tea party sympathizers can stop with the faux hand-wringing about that term now.

I'll even cite my reference..

http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=Mjk1YmRjNzIxNmUwMTI0ZWYxZWU4OWU2MzFiOWJmNDE=

[Red Arrow]

Let's keep in mind people, that it was the Tea Party's own fault for the term "Tea Bagger".  

Let's also keep in mind that when the undesirable connotation became apparent, there was a desire to lose the nickname.

Some of my high school acquaintances thought it was clever to take their first initial and the first three letters of their last name to make a nickname. Unfortunately Tom Watson's new name was not so well received at the family dinner table.  (True story, not the famous golfer though.)

[Hoss]

Let's also keep in mind that when the undesirable connotation became apparent, there was a desire to lose the nickname.

Some of my high school acquaintances thought it was clever to take their first initial and the first three letters of their last name to make a nickname. Unfortunately Tom Watson's new name was not so well received at the family dinner table.  (True story, not the famous golfer though.)

And the point is?  Appearances are everything.  If you're the one to call yourself the thing you wish not to be called, don't complain when it takes off like wildfire.  Especially when it's so damned funny.  The tea-bag...errr...sorry, tea-partiers brought that one on themselves.

[GG]

Let's keep in mind people, that it was the Tea Party's own fault for the term "Tea Bagger".  They coined it themselves.  So when Gweed gets all redfaced and has to extract his panties from his a$$crack, it's not really justified.

It was penned in April of 2009 pretty much, when they asked organizers to send Washington a message on Tax Day, and "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You."

So all you right-wing tea party sympathizers can stop with the faux hand-wringing about that term now.

I'll even cite my reference..

http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=Mjk1YmRjNzIxNmUwMTI0ZWYxZWU4OWU2MzFiOWJmNDE=

This is where the Tea Party began.....................

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853

[Red Arrow]

And the point is?  Appearances are everything.  If you're the one to call yourself the thing you wish not to be called, don't complain when it takes off like wildfire.  Especially when it's so damned funny.  The tea-bag...errr...sorry, tea-partiers brought that one on themselves.

I guess you never had a nickname you didn't like, self started or otherwise.  Lucky you.

[Hoss]

I guess you never had a nickname you didn't like, self started or otherwise.  Lucky you.

Hoss is the only one I've ever had.  Likely because I didn't try and make myself better than others growing up and try to pi$$ people off.  Alot of the teaparty problems can be attributed to that.  They're a fringe element of a perfectly viable political party that the more level-headed members of their base cringe when they get talked about.  Kinda like the wacky uncle you have but try not to talk about.

Only problem is this uncle is out there 'hey, look at me!'  'Look at the stupid stuff I can say!'.

[Hoss]

This is where the Tea Party began.....................

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853

May be where the tea party began, the connotation however is a different story.

[guido911]

My, Guido, how you do go on!  I didn't realize you were so sensitive about this.  I'll make a note of so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities.

I am not being overly sensitive. I am simply pointing out how freakin hilarious you are. Look at me, I am calling someone a teabagger, ain't I clever? Keep going with it, it is damned funny.

[Conan71]

I lose interest in a political conversation when a liberal blurts out "Tea Ba**er".  I don't personally associate with the Tea Party movement nor have I been to a rally and I've not donated to a Tea Party candidate.  I do like the Libertarian ideals in their movement.

Here's why I take exception to the term, aside from it being totally sophomoric:



Draw your own conclusions, I chose a relatively sanitary image to illustrate.  I've heard the term applied to gay men as a perjorative for years and now liberals think they can be cute by slipping this term into a conversation about right wing politics.  I have many gay friends, none of whom would care to be flippantly called a tea ba**er.

I really don't give two shits who first coined the term, whether it was some moron in the Tea Party or Rachael Madcow, it doesn't belong in political discussion amongst mature adults.  If you don't believe there's a liberal bias to reporting on the traditional MSM outposts, then why is it you only hear about the smallest percentage of kooks who show up at Tea Party rallys?  For the most part of what I've read and seen, the majority of attendees are simply people who are disaffected by the two party system which is doing nothing but keeping the ruling class in power and crapping on the rest of us.  I certainly don't characterize the Democratic party by the far left loonies which show up to their rallies and conventions (Cindy Sheehan, code pink, anyone?), nor by their icons like Bill Ayers (hey bombing Federal buildings is just civil disobedience if you are a radical Democrat).

As far as Tea Partiers being a fringe element, they are developing a head of steam.  I find the main intent of the movement is good: sending a message to Washington that there's a growing sentiment of citizens not tolerating business as usual in DC and that we are tired of being sold out by corrupt politicians to help special interests and large donors who have kept them in power.  I don't think of them as being a far right minority.  They are mis-characterized as a bunch of anti-tax racists neither of which seems to be descriptive of the larger movement.  It's about smaller government and bringing common sense back to politics.  I believe you are going to see this become the new middle-ground movement in America of moderate Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, and Democrats who simply are tired of corruption and an overly intrusive government. 

The time to dismiss them as "fringe" or "splinter" and to continue to hurl derisive perjoratives at them has long past if you want people to take you serious in a political discussion.

[guido911]

Those calling protesters "tea baggers" were probably the same kids that sat in the deepest corner of the library in high school looking up dirty words in the dictionary. "Hurry, look up "sh!t". tee hee

[Conan71]

Those calling protesters "tea baggers" were probably the same kids that sat in the deepest corner of the library in high school looking up dirty words in the dictionary. "Hurry, look up "sh!t". tee hee

Oh, I assumed they were the ones who ate paste, peeled Elmer's Glue off their fingers, and usually had an index finger buried to the first knuckle up one of their nostrils.  You know, the ones that red Kool Aid made bat smile crazy.

[Cats Cats Cats]

Conan, that is where it started out.  Now its spokesperon is Sarah Palin.  It is now just a group that just wants lower taxes.  They want a "smaller" government like Reagan.  So drop spending by 10% and put 50% in the military.  Amazing how smaller costs so much more money.

[Conan71]

Conan, that is where it started out.  Now its spokesperon is Sarah Palin.  It is now just a group that just wants lower taxes.  They want a "smaller" government like Reagan.  So drop spending by 10% and put 50% in the military.  Amazing how smaller costs so much more money.

And if that's all you are gleaning from it you are either glued to MSNBC or your own paradigms won't allow you to look deeper.

Look, I don't really care for Sarah Palin and don't find her to be a viable candidate for POTUS in 2012, but she's apparently pretty relevant and her endorsement seems to be helping candidates more than POTUS Obama's this election cycle. Candidates she is backing are resonating with voters.  It doesn't matter whether you or I like her, what matters is she's managing to mobilize voters.