RFQ - distributed by Kaiser Foundation for Blair/Crow Creek properties

[waterboy]

I just stumbled across this while looking at pictures of that park.

MOBILE, Ala. -- An 81-year-old woman with a self-described incontinence problem awaits trial on a charge of public lewdness after Mobile police arrested her for urinating in the bushes in Bienville Square.

Unforseen problems: Old people urinate in nice parks. Perhaps we should just leave it like it is. I've never seen anyone urinate on the current piece of land.

You haven't seen those 40+ male joggers frantically looking for a tree on the path behind Blair? Good, I'm safe for now.

Really, I think we should somehow integrate the usage of that land with the nearby creek and lake. We are overdue for a children's museum, but the last thing I would like to see is a high usage area requiring lots of parking like the Aquarium.

[ZYX]

We are overdue for a children's museum, but the last thing I would like to see is a high usage area requiring lots of parking like the Aquarium.

I 100% agree. The last thing we need here is a large parking lot or garage.

[bacjz00]

We have one but it has yet to acquire a building

tulsachildrensmuseum.com

I think you're just proving my point.   Hopefully this isn't an argument AGAINST using this land as an opportunity to give the Tulsa Children's Museum a permanent home.

[ZYX]

I think you're just proving my point.   Hopefully this isn't an argument AGAINST using this land as an opportunity to give the Tulsa Children's Museum a permanent home.

I understand your point, but this is a terrible spot for a children's museum. It would decharacterize the neighborhood, and you would probably  have some angry residents.

[waterboy]

Ain't nothin' gonna' please folks who have had a green space around them for a hundred years! Really, the abuse any development will face is a given. Private money will assuage some of that.

[ZYX]

Ain't nothin' gonna' please folks who have had a green space around them for a hundred years! Really, the abuse any development will face is a given. Private money will assuage some of that.

Yes, but does anyone want a huge parking lot?

[Breadburner]

Some things are better left undeveloped......

[SXSW]

I'd rather see the science/childrens museum downtown by Blue Dome or on the west bank.  I think the residential nature of this area should stay intact and be an extension of the Maple Ridge neighborhood around it.

[waterboy]

West bank for the Children's Museum sounds good.

Wouldn't bother me if Blair becomes a permanent green belt. Breathing space.

[bacjz00]

Sorry but the west bank is dead...we don't need yet another mediocre pocket area that is underfunded and underutilized. 

Also I wasn't advocating taking away the green space, just using the Blair house as a museum, maybe putting some underground parking nearby??  The green space should stay I agree...

Given my first paragraph, I suppose we should probably look downtown for the Children's Museum...Just thought the Blair House had some charm that would be a good fit.   Will be interesting to see the proposals.

[waterboy]

I hadn't thought of the house as a museum. That is an interesting idea. I just thought west bank has some existing buildings and parking over by the public works area that could work. Long term plans were to move that function somewhere else and the buildings might be useful.

Downtown however already has a good deal of momentum to play off of.

[SXSW]

Attractions are already spread out as it is, which is why downtown makes more sense for a new museum.  The east bank needs more residential density while the west bank, specifically Festival Park and the Mid-Con plant, should be a park, IMO.

[ZYX]

I think the west bank would be great if we made it all a park. It would be the place to go where you could get away from it all, without really getting away from anything. I would love to see the east bank high density residential, and then the west bank converted to park land.

[waterboy]

Attractions are already spread out as it is, which is why downtown makes more sense for a new museum.  The east bank needs more residential density while the west bank, specifically Festival Park and the Mid-Con plant, should be a park, IMO.

East bank needs more residential density? How far South? Its already pretty dense up to 61st. The only blank land I can think of north of 61st is the Blair land and the hills below a couple mansions.

Do you mean high rise type density?

[Red Arrow]

East bank needs more residential density? How far South? Its already pretty dense up to 61st. The only blank land I can think of north of 61st is the Blair land and the hills below a couple mansions.
Do you mean high rise type density?

We'd better get some good public transit if we want any real residential high density.