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Started by Hoss, September 28, 2010, 10:59:24 AM

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azbadpuppy

Quote from: Conan71 on September 28, 2010, 12:25:38 PM
And pulled from the same blog, a major campaign donor to the Democrat campaign for Georgia governor has just gotten sued for the fourth time for soliciting sex from underage boys:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/category/church-abuse/

It's okay though, he's a Democrat so it's not hypocritical.  ::)

Can't imagine how loud the headlines would have been if he'd have supported McCain in 2008.

Couple of things:

This is ALL over the mainstream news. Even on GMA this morning. I think the fact that he's a Baptist minister, of one of the largest churches in the world (30,000 members) with some very high profile members (MLK's daughter) might have something to do with that. He is hardly being painted in a positive light, regardless of his party affiliation.

And just as a technicality, the 4 men accusing him were all 16 or older at the time, which is the age of consent in Georgia, so they weren't underage as far as the law is concerned. Legally he has done nothing wrong. On the issue of morals however....

Bishop Long has campaigned against gay rights for decades and is one of the most outspoken clergy when it comes to his hatred for gays. He has even preached sermons stating that gays should be put to death. That, I think, is much more disturbing than how he is registered to vote.
 

Conan71

Quote from: azbadpuppy on September 28, 2010, 11:20:46 PM
Couple of things:

This is ALL over the mainstream news. Even on GMA this morning. I think the fact that he's a Baptist minister, of one of the largest churches in the world (30,000 members) with some very high profile members (MLK's daughter) might have something to do with that. He is hardly being painted in a positive light, regardless of his party affiliation.

And just as a technicality, the 4 men accusing him were all 16 or older at the time, which is the age of consent in Georgia, so they weren't underage as far as the law is concerned. Legally he has done nothing wrong. On the issue of morals however....

Bishop Long has campaigned against gay rights for decades and is one of the most outspoken clergy when it comes to his hatred for gays. He has even preached sermons stating that gays should be put to death. That, I think, is much more disturbing than how he is registered to vote.


Ironically, Marc Foley's objects of attention were all of legal age by D.C. standards.  Still didn't matter, he was labeled a pervert and pedophile with glee. 

This definitely has not gotten the play that the Haggard and Foley scandals got. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

we vs us

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Quote from: Conan71 on September 29, 2010, 09:11:28 AM
Ironically, Marc Foley's objects of attention were all of legal age by D.C. standards.  Still didn't matter, he was labeled a pervert and pedophile with glee.  

This definitely has not gotten the play that the Haggard and Foley scandals got.  

Well, you know, he's not an elected official. And this guy has been in the news for three days or so, so he and Haggard are probably about neck and neck.

PS.  What's with the whole Republican persecution complex thingy?  What networks are you watching that come down so unfairly on the GOP?  I ain't seeing it, especially on the majors.

Conan71

Quote from: we vs us on September 29, 2010, 09:24:53 AM
Well, you know, he's not an elected official.

Funny, I remember the libs on here calling Foley a hypocrite at the time.  Wouldn't a spiritual leader of 30,000 people and outspoken opponent of gay rights be a much bigger hypocrite?  Or is that only relevant if he's a Republican?

And if he were an elected official with a D next to his name, it would get the fart in the wind treatment instead of a six week long circus prior to the mid-term elections like they did with the Foley story, or the endless attempts at painting prominent Republicans with ties to Ted Haggard as a bunch of pervert coddlers.

Most people had never heard of Gerry Studds (sounds like a porn star) prior to the Foley scandal.  Studds had a dalliance with an underaged page and was returned to Congress for six more terms after a censure.  Where was the outrage from libs then?  He was an elected leader.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

I was outraged then and I am outraged now. I am a liberal democrat. There. Now you have heard of one of us being outraged.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 29, 2010, 09:47:44 AM
I was outraged then and I am outraged now. I am a liberal democrat. There. Now you have heard of one of us being outraged.

It's a start  ;)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: we vs us on September 29, 2010, 09:24:53 AM
PS.  What's with the whole Republican persecution complex thingy?  What networks are you watching that come down so unfairly on the GOP?  I ain't seeing it, especially on the majors.

The majors consider the treatment as deserved, not persecution, and therefore not a story.
 

RecycleMichael

Oh. He is a democrat. I must have spelled outrage incorrectly. I meant I was a hypocrite. Shame on bad republicans attacking a man of faith like that.
Power is nothing till you use it.

we vs us

Quote from: Conan71 on September 29, 2010, 09:41:44 AM
Funny, I remember the libs on here calling Foley a hypocrite at the time.  Wouldn't a spiritual leader of 30,000 people and outspoken opponent of gay rights be a much bigger hypocrite?  Or is that only relevant if he's a Republican?

And if he were an elected official with a D next to his name, it would get the fart in the wind treatment instead of a six week long circus prior to the mid-term elections like they did with the Foley story, or the endless attempts at painting prominent Republicans with ties to Ted Haggard as a bunch of pervert coddlers.

Most people had never heard of Gerry Studds (sounds like a porn star) prior to the Foley scandal.  Studds had a dalliance with an underaged page and was returned to Congress for six more terms after a censure.  Where was the outrage from libs then?  He was an elected leader.

Dude, what's in your coffee?  Gerry Studds diddled the page in 1973.  He was censured by the House, which is entirely appropriate.  I have no idea why charges weren't pressed, and since I was born that year, can't remember what the "lib" response was.   Foley didn't let any of that play out, and stepped down before censure could even start.  C'est la vie. That was his choice. You'll notice that Mr. Wide Stance himself -- who was arrested for lewd conduct -- was allowed to serve out his term without so much as a slap on the wrist.  Guess what?  He was a Republican.  

BTW, Pastor Eddie Long is now on the front page of every news organization's website.  He's getting all the play you wished for him, and there's undoubtedly more to come.




azbadpuppy

Quote from: Conan71 on September 29, 2010, 09:41:44 AM
Funny, I remember the libs on here calling Foley a hypocrite at the time.  Wouldn't a spiritual leader of 30,000 people and outspoken opponent of gay rights be a much bigger hypocrite?  Or is that only relevant if he's a Republican?

No, he's a total hypocrite, and a complete scumbag (if proven guilty). That was the point of my post. It doesn't matter what party he claims affiliation to.

Typically these people have been Republican politicians, and they are hypocrites because they base much of their platforms on so-called morality issues. In this case, he's not a politician but a preacher with the same hateful agenda who happens to be a registered Democrat, and a closet 'Mo. No difference.

Anyone who preaches morality and publicy and actively campains against the gay community and their 'lifestyle', then engages in said behavior is a hypocritical scumbag.
 

JeffM

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Quote from: we vs us on September 29, 2010, 09:24:53 AM
PS.  What's with the whole Republican persecution complex thingy?  What networks are you watching that come down so unfairly on the GOP?  I ain't seeing it, especially on the majors.

No kidding.  Are we talking about the same media that convinced the American people it was IRAQ who attacked us on 9/11 while refusing to cover the negligent inaction of the Bush administration in Afghanistan?

The biggest lie perpetuated endlessly decade after decade from the conservative activist radio/print/tv media is that the MSM is "liberal."

Repeat a lie often enough and 20% of the American sheeple will be patriotically inspired to believe it.... go figure.
Bring back the Tulsa Roughnecks!.... JeffM is now TulsaRufnex....  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

azbadpuppy

Speaking on matters of what the "liberal" media chooses to cover, here's a little gem that has received virtually no MM coverage at all:

http://www.newser.com/story/101157/anti-gay-death-threat-traced-to-gop-senators-office.html

Apparently the Georgia Senator has admitted the "All Faggots must die" posting did originate from his office, but so far they are unwilling or unable to find out exactly who is responsible- something that anyone who is even slightly internet savvy could figure out in a matter of minutes.

This happened over a week ago. Clearly not as important of a media story as Bristol Palin's dancing moves.
 

waterboy

I think those flying boats are cool. I would like to have one.

Conan71

Quote from: waterboy on September 29, 2010, 11:18:01 AM
I think those flying boats are cool. I would like to have one.

I bet you would.  How about a turbo prop version?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

waterboy

i'm not sure what powers them, but I could certainly see some advantages from having a fast, low flying, under the radar,  land or water based, fleet of these. Put one of those new high power boxer engines on one with an offset dual prop for silencing and you could raise hell attacking a community before they could mobilize against you. Sort of like our drone planes.