National Election predictions

[Conan71]

The voters of Oklahoma have only had the ability to vote against "the gays".  This is the first time they got a chance to pass a meaningless bill calling out Muslims.

We got to express our hatred of brown people too with the voter ID and English as the official language questions.  It was really kind of a grand slam.

[Townsend]

We got to express our hatred of brown people too with the voter ID and English as the official language questions.  It was really kind of a grand slam.

I was thinking about that.  I'm Irish so I don't get very tan.  Some of my friends though...they might get kicked out of the state next summer.

[Hoss]

We got to express our hatred of brown people too with the voter ID and English as the official language questions.  It was really kind of a grand slam.

I'm guessing it won't be too long before both of those will be challenged in the courts.

[Conan71]

I was thinking about that.  I'm Irish so I don't get very tan.  Some of my friends though...they might get kicked out of the state next summer.

I'm going to have to start wearing sunscreen and quit trying to transact my business with the state in Sanskrit.

[Hoss]

I'm going to have to start wearing sunscreen and quit trying to transact my business with the state in Sanskrit.

I thought it was the papyrus scrolls that really gave you away....

[Conan71]

I'm guessing it won't be too long before both of those will be challenged in the courts.

Can anyone explain to me what's so terribly wrong about checking someone's ID when they vote?  Do we really want inelligible people voting in elections, or people who have not registered to vote?

[Townsend]

I'm guessing it won't be too long before both of those will be challenged in the courts.

And there's the grumble.  We are going to spend alot of money defending this stuff.

You're doin' fine Oklahoma.

[Townsend]

Can anyone explain to me what's so terribly wrong about checking someone's ID when they vote?  Do we really want inelligible people voting in elections, or people who have not registered to vote?

One of the major issues is having to buy a state ID.  Paying to vote is a no-no.

The other issue is that per the new rules, you don't have to have an ID.  You just have to sign a paper saying you are who you say you are.  Guess what we were doing before.

[nathanm]

Can anyone explain to me what's so terribly wrong about checking someone's ID when they vote?  Do we really want inelligible people voting in elections, or people who have not registered to vote?

Did you not notice that they look your name up in the big book before letting you vote? If you're ineligible, you don't get to vote (or you get to vote a provisional ballot that will then be thrown out because you weren't registered or were otherwise ineligible)

[Red Arrow]

We got to express our hatred of brown people too with the voter ID and English as the official language questions.  It was really kind of a grand slam.

Are you saying that brown people are the only people incapable of getting a voter ID and learning English?

[Conan71]

Did you not notice that they look your name up in the big book before letting you vote? If you're ineligible, you don't get to vote (or you get to vote a provisional ballot that will then be thrown out because you weren't registered or were otherwise ineligible)

Uh, Duh no I didn't notice that since I had to sign it

"Hello, I'm Smith (flip to page in big book), Tim uh Tom, oh yeah the election board has me by my middle name 'George'"

I could have walked in to any number of precincts and pulled that off yesterday with no one being any the wiser.  Pick a common last name, or even tell the worker: "Let me look it up, my last name is complicated" then find an obscure last name where the line had not been signed yet.  You'd run a slight risk of that voter coming in while you were there, but it would be a simple scam.

I've not been so much as asked for my voter card in 26 years that I can recall.  I might have at one precinct I used to vote at many years back but I've not been asked in at least 20 years I can think of.

[Conan71]

Are you saying that brown people are the only people incapable of getting a voter ID and learning English?

Just repeating the libtard special liberal talking points  

Townsend, I don't buy the "poll tax" argument of needing a state-issued photo ID to vote, especially the way this question was written.  Any adult without a driver's license needs one to cash a check, do banking transactions, or use a debit or credit card with some businesses.  Here's the text of the bill.  They will even accept in lieu of a photo ID your county voter card which is free.  That's about as easy as you can make it.  This would allow someone to use a military ID, conceal carry permit, or any other photo ID you might already carry.

"This measure amends statutes relating to voting requirements. It requires that each person appearing to vote present a document proving their identity. The document must meet the following requirements. It must have the name and photograph of the voter. It must have been issued by the federal, state or tribal government. It must have an expiration date that is after the date of the election. No expiration date would be required on certain identity cards issued to person 65 years of age or older.
In lieu of such a document, voters could present voter identification cards issued by the County Election Board.
A person who cannot or does not present the required identification may sign a sworn statement and cast a provisional ballot. Swearing to a false statement would be a felony.
These proof of identity requirements also apply to in-person absentee voting. If adopted by the people, the measure would become effective July 1, 2011."

[Red Arrow]

Excerpt from the TW voter's guide to the election:

SQ 746
Subject: Voter identification

Summary: This measure would change state statutes to require voters to present government-issued photo identification or a county voter registration card at the polls.

I don't remember ever paying for a voter registration card.

[Hoss]

Can anyone explain to me what's so terribly wrong about checking someone's ID when they vote?  Do we really want inelligible people voting in elections, or people who have not registered to vote?

I never said there was.  I actually voted FOR the measure.  I always have my ID and voter card out at every election when I walk up to the table, because on occasion, I have been asked for it.

[nathanm]

Excerpt from the TW voter's guide to the election:

SQ 746
Subject: Voter identification

Summary: This measure would change state statutes to require voters to present government-issued photo identification or a county voter registration card at the polls.

I don't remember ever paying for a voter registration card.

As I recall from reading the full measure, it requires a photo ID. I guess that means that the election boards will be on the hook for producing registration cards with photos.

It's OK, there's no reason homeless people, who are very likely to lose any ID they have, should get to vote.