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Started by RecycleMichael, October 18, 2010, 10:23:02 AM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on November 03, 2010, 11:17:24 AM
I never said there was.  I actually voted FOR the measure.  I always have my ID and voter card out at every election when I walk up to the table, because on occasion, I have been asked for it.

I've never met you. Do you speak with a Spanish accent?
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 03, 2010, 11:20:30 AM
I've never met you. Do you speak with a Spanish accent?

Nope.  Several people on here will attest to that.

Do you speak with an 'Okie' accent?  Should it matter?

RecycleMichael

Show me the reason for the law. Show me the examples of voter fraud that would be solved by requiring me to show a government issued ID.

They don't exist. This was just another trick to make voters afraid.

This wasn't about voter fraud...it was about voter obstruction.
Power is nothing till you use it.

nathanm

To elaborate, I'm all for protections that don't make it harder for someone who is legitimately entitled to vote from exercising that right. I would, for example, have no problem with having someone who does not have ID sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury that they are who they claim to be and taking a digital fingerprint or photograph of that person, which could then be used at other precincts to verify that that particular person has not previously voted.

Also: Purple thumbs. If it works for Afghanistan, why not here? ;)

Also: What RM said. This is yet another solution in search of a problem.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 03, 2010, 11:23:46 AM
Show me the reason for the law. Show me the examples of voter fraud that would be solved by requiring me to show a government issued ID.

They don't exist. This was just another trick to make voters afraid.

This wasn't about voter fraud...it was about voter obstruction.

I am a registered voter.  Why should I be afraid to show ID?
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on November 03, 2010, 11:26:26 AM
Also: Purple thumbs. If it works for Afghanistan, why not here? ;)

I don't want purple.  I want orange.
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 03, 2010, 11:28:04 AM
I don't want purple.  I want orange.

That won't work.  You could claim you'd been eating Cheetos therefore giving you to chance to vote again.


;D

Townsend

Quote from: nathanm on November 03, 2010, 11:26:26 AM
Also: Purple thumbs. If it works for Afghanistan, why not here? ;)


No way...I ain't no Afghani...

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on November 03, 2010, 11:23:03 AM
Nope.  Several people on here will attest to that.

Do you speak with an 'Okie' accent?  Should it matter?

I think it's fading after nearly 40 years but I speak with an Eastern Pennsylvania (but not PA Dutch) accent.  

The impression I get from much that is written is that only voters with a Spanish accent will be profiled.
 

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 03, 2010, 11:23:46 AM
Show me the reason for the law. Show me the examples of voter fraud that would be solved by requiring me to show a government issued ID.

They don't exist. This was just another trick to make voters afraid.

This wasn't about voter fraud...it was about voter obstruction.

That's an over-reaction.

I don't have the time to look up the existing laws, but I'm assuming since we are issued voter ID cards after registering to vote that it's a requirement they be presented upon demand at the polls as it is now.  Poll workers are simply lax in performing the duty of checking.  

Would you scream at your poll worker they were obstructing your vote if you were asked to present your voter ID card (which is the bare minimum ID required by SQ 746)?

What would keep me from voting in a precinct in which I don't belong?  That's actually thrown one or two city council elections in the past, people still voting in a precinct they used to live in.  That is not fair to the candidate nor the citizens of that district.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on November 03, 2010, 11:30:37 AM

I don't have the time to look up the existing laws, but I'm assuming since we are issued voter ID cards after registering to vote that it's a requirement they be presented upon demand at the polls as it is now.  Poll workers are simply lax in performing the duty of checking.  


Why'd they have to go so much farther?  Why not enforce this?

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 03, 2010, 11:30:29 AM
I think it's fading after nearly 40 years but I speak with an Eastern Pennsylvania (but not PA Dutch) accent.  

The impression I get from much that is written is that only voters with a Spanish accent will be profiled.

Which is likely why the law will be challenged in the courts and probably overturned, if it encourages racial profiling or is found to have that effect.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on November 03, 2010, 11:29:00 AM
That won't work.  You could claim you'd been eating Cheetos therefore giving you to chance to vote again.


;D

Ever eat blackberries?   ;D
 

Hoss


Townsend

I wonder if this will be repealed once someone realizes they lost the blue hair vote.