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Started by RecycleMichael, October 18, 2010, 10:23:02 AM

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Hoss

Quote from: Breadburner on November 01, 2010, 07:45:15 PM
Obama has done more for the GOP than anyone in history......

It's likely the GOP would have done better.

Except for the kooks called the Tea Partiers.

Christine O'Donnell - case in point.

we vs us

Quote from: Breadburner on November 01, 2010, 07:45:15 PM
Obama has done more for the GOP than anyone in history......

That's a pretty narrow view. 

Reagan?  Goldwater?  Nixon? 

Or how about Carter, or Clinton?  Or Hillary, before Obama came along?  He's just one more in a long line of Democrats that GOPers have or will come to hate.  Because the GOP will hate whichever Democrat is president, no matter who it is or what they've done.   They can be liberal, they can be moderate, they can accomplish some of the selfsame goals as the GOP professes to want and in some of the GOP's preferred manners and still they'll be hated.  There's simply no winning.   

Conan71

Heh. You could do strike outs and exchange GOPer & Democrat and 1/2 the people will think that's the proper context.

I know conservative Republicans who can admit in hindsight that Clinton was a good President. I don't know a single liberal Democrat who is willing to admit Reagan was a good President.

Please explain that to me or am I simply speaking from conservative victim camp again?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on November 02, 2010, 12:40:15 AM
Heh. You could do strike outs and exchange GOPer & Democrat and 1/2 the people will think that's the proper context.

I know conservative Republicans who can admit in hindsight that Clinton was a good President. I don't know a single liberal Democrat who is willing to admit Reagan was a good President.

Please explain that to me or am I simply speaking from conservative victim camp again?

I thought on certain things Reagan was a good President.  Foreign affairs?  Yes.  Economics.  No.

RecycleMichael

I agreed with Reagan on immigration issues.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on November 02, 2010, 12:45:44 AM
I thought on certain things Reagan was a good President.  Foreign affairs?  Yes.  Economics.  No.

Job growth, GDP growth, a business climate where new industries could thrive: what was bad about that? 

If his economic policies were so bad, why is the Obama admin trying to emulate parts of Reaganomics in trying to re-start the economy? Increased deficit spending, tax handouts on some, tax increases on others for starters.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Got to the polls at 6:55.  Line into the parking lot.  Took 22minutes to get in and an additional 10 minutes to vote.  When I left cars were lined up about 1/4 mile down the road, and the lot was full.  It was a festive environment.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Gaspar on November 02, 2010, 07:58:46 AM
Got to the polls at 6:55.  Line into the parking lot.  Took 22minutes to get in and an additional 10 minutes to vote.  When I left cars were lined up about 1/4 mile down the road, and the lot was full.  It was a festive environment.

We had a full parking lot and 2 lines inside.  I was number 61 at about 7:20.  Took me about 15 minutes total.
 

Gaspar

I miss working with some people just for the precious things that come out of their mouths (keyboards).  Just got an IM from the little Obama-maniac that used to work down the hall from me at my previous job.  She has a masters degree, and has been out of work for 8 months.

"So what's all the voting about today?

Me: It's the midterm elections.

"Do we get a new president or something?"

Me: No.

"Rock-Me-Obamadeus!"

Me: Uh-huh.  Don't you at least watch the news?

"Nope!! All bad news."

Me: Good. Than you won't be canceling my votes.

"Votes??  You get more than one??"

. . .It continues.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Yes, Gaspar, there are in fact morons surrounding us on all sides. I'd say that perhaps we need more civics classes in school, but the people who need them most would just sleep through them just like they do now with the one they get.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on November 02, 2010, 02:23:12 PM
Yes, Gaspar, there are in fact morons surrounding us on all sides. I'd say that perhaps we need more civics classes in school, but the people who need them most would just sleep through them just like they do now with the one they get.

I fear that too many Americans get their news from the daily show.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on November 02, 2010, 02:43:10 PM
I fear that too many Americans get their news from the daily show.

I would argue though that it's better than getting their info from Glenn Beck...

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on November 02, 2010, 02:43:10 PM
I fear that too many Americans get their news from the daily show.

Better than getting it from some of our (not so) fine news outlets. Stewart has a lot of conservatives on his show, so viewers get exposed to most of the spectrum of political thought in our country. On some networks, one is exposed mostly or exclusively to one particular point of view, even if you watch it every waking hour.

He's much more anti-stupid than he is pro- any particular political point of view, although he definitely has a center-left point of view. Or, compared to Oklahoma politics, he's a radical communist.

Oh yes, Glenn Beck, the one promoting a company that rips people off. Great place to get news, Hoss.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: nathanm on November 02, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
Better than getting it from some of our (not so) fine news outlets. Stewart has a lot of conservatives on his show, so viewers get exposed to most of the spectrum of political thought in our country. On some networks, one is exposed mostly or exclusively to one particular point of view, even if you watch it every waking hour.

He's much more anti-stupid than he is pro- any particular political point of view, although he definitely has a center-left point of view. Or, compared to Oklahoma politics, he's a radical communist.

Oh yes, Glenn Beck, the one promoting a company that rips people off. Great place to get news, Hoss.

Compared to Oklahoma politics he is an Elitist because he can read.

guido911

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 02, 2010, 08:10:38 AM
We had a full parking lot and 2 lines inside.  I was number 61 at about 7:20.  Took me about 15 minutes total.
The poll workers in my precinct (North Heights Church of Christ) reported very high voter turn out.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.