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reflections on the elections...

Started by RecycleMichael, November 03, 2010, 11:33:16 AM

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Conan71

Quote from: Trogdor on November 11, 2010, 12:59:59 PM
Except it is said that small business is the heart of the US economy.  So unless your small business is publicly traded the capital gains tax isn't going to help your business.

What exactly are you thinking being publicly traded has to do with cap gains?  Owners buying and selling stock?  Help me out here.

If you are in the business of buying and selling assets to make money or your business owns real estate or other appreciable assets, cap gains affects you. 

Higher tax rates always force people to find ways to lower their overall burden and the tax codes are written with enough outs to exploit this.  Instead of taking income, your business buys you a company car or purchases real estate which can be sold at a later date which will hopefully have a lower cap gains rate when the real estate is sold at a profit.
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While the burden on small businesses paying a lower percentage on long term capital gains.  Larger companies gain more of an advantage from the individual capital gains tax for investment in stocks.  It all depends on if your business is based largely on selling items that will fall under the effect it will have.  I am for having business pay a lower tax rate but not the individual on capital gains.

*Edit: Although it really sucks if you sell an asset , pay the tax, then pay the tax on the profit when you get paid for it*

heironymouspasparagus

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.


And here is another thing to do that makes more sense than any Glen Beck rally;
Hearse Con, be there or accept your role as a bitter failure at life.

http://www.hearseclub.com/hearsecon/hearsecon.htm


Geez.....  again.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Capital gains;

Corporation, either C or S can use ISO's (Incentive Stock Options).  Use the tools!  Grant and ISO, vesting in one year.  At the end of the year, sell the stock back to the corp using the money you reserved the previous year.  Instant 15% tax.
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 11, 2010, 01:19:29 PM
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.


And here is another thing to do that makes more sense than any Glen Beck rally;
Hearse Con, be there or accept your role as a bitter failure at life.

http://www.hearseclub.com/hearsecon/hearsecon.htm


Geez.....  again.



You make a great case for a poll tax.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

how did this thread evolve into a tax discussion?
Power is nothing till you use it.

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Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on November 11, 2010, 01:39:01 PM
You make a great case for a poll tax.

A friend of mine had a BD party last Saturday and I paid a poll...oh, you mean poll as in 'voter' tax.

Not surprising.

;D

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 11, 2010, 01:44:09 PM
how did this thread evolve into a tax discussion?

Shhhh, it's part of my plan to eventually steer the conversation to Marshall's.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on November 11, 2010, 01:59:21 PM
Shhhh, it's part of my plan to eventually steer the conversation to Marshall's.

Is everyone voting for Marshalls in the Thirsty Beagle?

http://blog.newsok.com/thirstybeagle/2010/11/11/bcs-last-four-spots-in-sweet-16-up-for-grabs/

Done and done.

Conan71

Thank you of reminding me of my civic duty Townsend.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on November 11, 2010, 02:35:34 PM
Thank you of reminding me of my civic duty Townsend.

A candidate I can truly get behind and support.

Red Arrow

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 11, 2010, 01:44:09 PM
how did this thread evolve into a tax discussion?

I believe it was:

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That's pretty much the whole point.  The richest have the privilege of paying only 15 to 16% taxes, while we pay 40+.  And they have gotten this special dispensation for 9 years.  And since 4th quarter 2007 until Jan 2010, we were losing jobs while they sit on the cash we put up for them to play with.

 

heironymouspasparagus

Ahhhh...the plaintive bleat of RWRE revisionist history!  Would that I had so much power to completely derail the collective train of thought!  I would use it for good - I promise!

But then again, at the very least, there were posts 74, 75, 78, and 98.  With massive infusions of Tea Party tea-bagging, which definitely would imply a tax component to even the most casual observer.

And wasn't the thread about elections??  And weren't the vast majority of Oklahoma elections based one half on tax cuts and the other half on illegal immigration??  (Answer;  yes.)

But I will accept that notion that I evolved the thread.  I shall play the martyr for the nonce.  (And no, not the sex offender version...)


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 12, 2010, 01:44:01 PM
Ahhhh...the plaintive bleat of RWRE revisionist history!  Would that I had so much power to completely derail the collective train of thought!  I would use it for good - I promise!

But then again, at the very least, there were posts 74, 75, 78, and 98.  With massive infusions of Tea Party tea-bagging, which definitely would imply a tax component to even the most casual observer.

And wasn't the thread about elections??  And weren't the vast majority of Oklahoma elections based one half on tax cuts and the other half on illegal immigration??  (Answer;  yes.)

But I will accept that notion that I evolved the thread.  I shall play the martyr for the nonce.  (And no, not the sex offender version...)




Still hosting the Bong Show in your spare time I see.  Doesn't your employer require piss tests?

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan