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Started by we vs us, December 01, 2010, 03:22:14 PM

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nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 04, 2010, 07:52:26 PM
Fortunately, I don't make enough to be in that bracket.
I have the deal of the century for you. If you ever earn enough money to be in the top tax bracket, you can give me the excess so you don't have to pay any evil income tax.  ;D

I'd rather have 60.4 cents on the dollar than nothing, but maybe that's just me.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

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Quote from: Red Arrow on December 04, 2010, 07:52:26 PM
Giving 35% of any dollar I earn to the feds directly in income tax is too much.  Fortunately, I don't make enough to be in that bracket.
Unfortunately, there are many "have nots" out there that believe that the "rich" got that way through some underhanded activity or were otherwise "fortunate" (as opposed to those without money or jobs being "unfortunate") and are morally required to pay more. Heck, even Biden believes paying more in taxes is "patriotic".



How in the hell does this draft dodger get away with talking about what is "patriotic". I digress.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on December 04, 2010, 08:02:41 PM
I have the deal of the century for you. If you ever earn enough money to be in the top tax bracket, you can give me the excess so you don't have to pay any evil income tax.  ;D

I'd rather have 60.4 cents on the dollar than nothing, but maybe that's just me.

Spoken like a true lib. gimme gimme gimme.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on December 04, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
Spoken like a true lib. gimme gimme gimme.
Yeah, that's it. The one who is arguing in favor of more taxes is the one asking for the handout.  ::)
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on December 04, 2010, 08:02:41 PM
I have the deal of the century for you. If you ever earn enough money to be in the top tax bracket, you can give me the excess so you don't have to pay any evil income tax.  ;D

I'd rather have 60.4 cents on the dollar than nothing, but maybe that's just me.

I'd rather have about 80 cents on the dollar than 60.4.  Notice I did not try to keep it all.
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 05, 2010, 10:31:16 AM
I'd rather have about 80 cents on the dollar than 60.4.  Notice I did not try to keep it all.
Savagely cut the military and you can probably get there, until the state gets their cut anyway..
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

RecycleMichael

Quote from: nathanm on December 05, 2010, 11:03:45 AM
Savagely cut the military and you can probably get there...

We have had tens of thousands of U.S. troops in Korea and have my entire life. We can also name other countries with the same. Why? When we will stop spending billions to be the police force for the world?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Red Arrow

Quote from: RecycleMichael on December 05, 2010, 11:23:50 AM
We have had tens of thousands of U.S. troops in Korea and have my entire life. We can also name other countries with the same. Why? When we will stop spending billions to be the police force for the world?

Maybe we could start charging for our services.
 

nathanm

Quote from: RecycleMichael on December 05, 2010, 11:23:50 AM
We have had tens of thousands of U.S. troops in Korea and have my entire life. We can also name other countries with the same. Why? When we will stop spending billions to be the police force for the world?
Probably when we stop requiring the world to pay tribute in the form of using the dollar for trade so we can run our trade and fiscal deficits without actually paying for it.

Red Arrow, we do charge. Well, I don't know specifically about Korea, but West Germany paid us back when we had soldiers stationed there and Japan shares the cost of US forces stationed there.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on December 05, 2010, 11:43:26 AM
Red Arrow, we do charge. Well, I don't know specifically about Korea, but West Germany paid us back when we had soldiers stationed there and Japan shares the cost of US forces stationed there.

Maybe some of the rest would just as soon have us leave.  The UN has proven to be ineffective.  Have any ideas?  Have the whole world be like Afghanistan with tribal war lords/countries?  I don't have a good solution.
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 05, 2010, 11:59:01 AM
Have the whole world be like Afghanistan with tribal war lords/countries?
A family member of mine who is in the Army and has spent a lot of time in Afghanistan seems to think that it's a lost cause unless we want to spend 20 years there learnin' 'em in the ways of civil society. He says they simply don't have a sense of what it's like to do things differently.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on December 05, 2010, 12:18:16 PM
A family member of mine who is in the Army and has spent a lot of time in Afghanistan seems to think that it's a lost cause unless we want to spend 20 years there learnin' 'em in the ways of civil society. He says they simply don't have a sense of what it's like to do things differently.

I don't like being the world's police force but can you imagine the whole world being like Afghanistan?
 

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on December 04, 2010, 08:39:17 PM
Yeah, that's it. The one who is arguing in favor of more taxes is the one asking for the handout.  ::)

A handout? It's my damned money--not yours or the government's money. More dumb liberal speak.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on December 05, 2010, 04:02:58 PM
A handout? It's my damned money--not yours or the government's money. More dumb liberal speak.
Our government is funded with borrowed money. If that's not a handout, I don't know what is.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on December 05, 2010, 04:39:50 PM
Our government is funded with borrowed money. If that's not a handout, I don't know what is.

One heck of a stupid retort. What's the matter with you today.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.