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Started by we vs us, December 01, 2010, 03:22:14 PM

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heironymouspasparagus

Guido,
If you think it is such an oppressive burden, and you don't like the way this country is going, then leave!  Nobody forcing you to stay and endure such abuse as to contribute proportionately to the mess the RWRE has made of the economy!  Making 300 to 500 times as much as most in the country but only paying 30 to 50 times the taxes.  Sounds SO much like a bargain!!

America, Love it or Leave it!!


And the RWRE has benefited from the gravy train for a long, long time.  And now that the debt and other financial problems have become nearly untenable, all we hear are the same old Neocon platitudes and plaintive bleats!  "Leave us our tax cuts!  We won't make jobs if you take that away from us!"  Even though they haven't been creating jobs already WITH those cuts.

An open question;
So how much should someone pay who has benefited by this system SOOO much that they have the opportunity to earn 300 to 500 times the lowest paid amongst us??  And I still submit that NO ONE who makes 300 to 500 times the lowest paid is, first, making that much more a contribution proportionately nor second, is doing it on their own without a large amount of disproportionately low paid help from the "little people" of the company they are running.







"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Red Arrow

Quote from: guido911 on December 09, 2010, 10:43:35 PM
Tell me, why should I pay so much more to just live in this country?

Because you can?
 

Gaspar

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 10, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Because you can?

It becomes the responsibility of the producer to support the moocher. - Page 256 - "The Feeding and Care of Liberals"
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on December 09, 2010, 11:06:53 PM
America, Love it or Leave it!!

Some time ago, in another thread, I suggested that a liberal could Love it or Leave it and I got blasted.

Consider yourself blasted.
 

guido911

Quote from: Gaspar on December 10, 2010, 11:14:32 AM
It becomes the responsibility of the producer to support the moocher heironymouspasparagus.

fify.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

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Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on December 09, 2010, 11:06:53 PM
Guido,
If you think it is such an oppressive burden, and you don't like the way this country is going, then leave!  Nobody forcing you to stay and endure such abuse as to contribute proportionately to the mess the RWRE has made of the economy!  Making 300 to 500 times as much as most in the country but only paying 30 to 50 times the taxes.  Sounds SO much like a bargain!!

America, Love it or Leave it!!


And the RWRE has benefited from the gravy train for a long, long time.  And now that the debt and other financial problems have become nearly untenable, all we hear are the same old Neocon platitudes and plaintive bleats!  "Leave us our tax cuts!  We won't make jobs if you take that away from us!"  Even though they haven't been creating jobs already WITH those cuts.

An open question;
So how much should someone pay who has benefited by this system SOOO much that they have the opportunity to earn 300 to 500 times the lowest paid amongst us??  And I still submit that NO ONE who makes 300 to 500 times the lowest paid is, first, making that much more a contribution proportionately nor second, is doing it on their own without a large amount of disproportionately low paid help from the "little people" of the company they are running.


You have officially attained "boring" status with that freakin stupid rant. Congrats. You did it before reaching the 1000 post mark!
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

we vs us

Bernie Sanders is filibustering the tax cut, and is in his 6th hour of speaking.  You have to appreciate his old-fashioned approach.  By actually filibustering.

nathanm

Quote from: we vs us on December 10, 2010, 02:49:18 PM
Bernie Sanders is filibustering the tax cut, and is in his 6th hour of speaking.  You have to appreciate his old-fashioned approach.  By actually filibustering.
Heh. If he had an R after his name, the Democrats wouldn't make him stoop to that level.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: we vs us on December 10, 2010, 02:49:18 PM
Bernie Sanders is filibustering the tax cut, and is in his 6th hour of speaking.  You have to appreciate his old-fashioned approach.  By actually filibustering.
Another dem wanting to increase taxes on the poor.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

Quote from: guido911 on December 10, 2010, 03:09:41 PM
Another dem wanting to increase taxes on the poor.

Actually, that's incorrect.  Just for the record.  Even though I know you know that.

Red Arrow

Quote from: we vs us on December 10, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
Actually, that's incorrect.  Just for the record.  Even though I know you know that.

What goes around, comes around.  I know you know that too.
 

we vs us

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 10, 2010, 04:56:29 PM
What goes around, comes around.  I know you know that too.

Sure, but . . . not exactly sure what that means in this context.

Red Arrow

Quote from: we vs us on December 10, 2010, 05:17:46 PM
Sure, but . . . not exactly sure what that means in this context.

If you need it spelled out, PM me.  I don't want to make you look really stupid in front of everyone.
 

heironymouspasparagus

#149
Red,
That's probably the biggest reason I threw that in there.  It is a stupid phrase when uttered by either side.  And when people have to resort to that, they have already intellectually abdicated their position AND there responsibility to think.


All;
Kind of like the whole,

"You have officially attained "boring" status with that freakin stupid rant."

of another poster.

Can always count on a 'name call' rather than a reasoned response outside of the script.

Open question to all is still open.
With a little extra;  in addition to all the other subsidies the really rich enjoy during their ongoing class warfare against the poor, why should a corporation be allowed to deduct these "500 times" paydays as a tax deduction?  Just another BIG subsidy that Richey Rich's get paid for by the rest of us.  

So let's see; the corporation gets to avoid taxes on $100 million.  The recipient gets to avoid about 25% of the taxes on $100 million.  Rather than double taxation (big non-existent complaint of the Richey Richest) there is a complete avoidance of something in the neighborhood of 25 million!  (Ok, yes, that example does have to pay about $15 million, just to be fair.)

But if it were at my rates, and I suspect most of the people in Tulsa, the amount would be closer to $35 or 40 million.  Plus state.  But if I had that $100 million to start with, I probably could afford a little 'face time' with my legislators.





"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.