Development fight of the year

[Hoss]

I don't mind finding another route during construction.  Unfortunately, many times there is construction on intersecting and adjacent arterials.  I really don't like driving through someone's neighborhood but maybe we need some alternate routes (small vehicles only) through the neighborhoods during construction.  20 to 25 mph is better than hpm (hours per mile).  Either that or plan the construction a little better.

While this doesn't help for arterials much, I use it pretty exclusively before I take off on the Tulsa highways.  Helps me a ton.

http://www.oktraffic.org

And usually I just deal with the traffic.  Lived in Houston for three years.  Tulsa's a cakewalk compared to that hellhole.

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While this doesn't help for arterials much, I use it pretty exclusively before I take off on the Tulsa highways.  Helps me a ton.

http://www.oktraffic.org

And usually I just deal with the traffic.  Lived in Houston for three years.  Tulsa's a cakewalk compared to that hellhole.

Mostly I just deal with it too.  There are some times/places to avoid but traffic here is relatively light compared to many others. Boston, Phila, LA.....

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Must be a traffic jam at www.oktraffic.org  I just tried to access it and it wouldn't come up.

[Hoss]

Must be a traffic jam at www.oktraffic.org  I just tried to access it and it wouldn't come up.

Stop using IE 2.0




For info's purpose, I got right in, IE, Chrome and Firefox.

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Stop using IE 2.0

For info's purpose, I got right in, IE, Chrome and Firefox.

I think I never used IE 2.0 regularly.  I used Netscape until it wouldn't work anymore.  Then I used IE 5.x and maybe 6.x.  Now I'm on Safari 4.0.4.  All those old computers with the pictures won't work on the DSL connection.  I keep the laptop for some specific aviation software that runs on DOS.

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Stop using IE 2.0
For info's purpose, I got right in, IE, Chrome and Firefox.

I just tried it again 10:55 PM and got right in using Safari, same computer and browser as earlier today.  Most of the cameras are farther north than I usually get.

[patric]

Ever notice that their "live" picture is just the same five still photos looped over and over?
You can revisit a camera and get a new set of five, but it's far from live video.

[inteller]

wow, never seen this site until now.....how awful.

[spartanokc]

I've always said Cherry Street needs a streetscape, and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.  Nothing too elaborate, just redone sidewalks, street trees with planters, new lighting, and maybe brick paver crosswalks.  PSO didn't bury any of the overhead lines during the Brookside streetscape project but maybe that could be done here.  Not sure where the funding would come from, how was Brookside funded?

And yes, you're right about the pedestrian-friendliness of Cherry Street ending at Troost.  I'd rather see the 15th & Utica intersection look more like 15th & Peoria removing the turn lanes and having on-street parallel parking begin just west of Utica.  Losing the Phillips station and gaining a building at the NW corner would be a big improvement.

Cherry Street really just needs the works..just give it any generic streetscape as long as it features some of the primary urbanist ideas that are currently out there. Skinnier lanes (which is ironic because midtown Tulsa has some really skinny lanes, yet Cherry St has the widest lanes in all of Tulsa probably), lower the speed limit, add a traffic light/ped crossing at St Louis or wherever is mid-way, consistent street parking, have a consistent sidewalk, and encourage parking lots to either be developed or put up a wall or landscaping that continues the streetwall so that the street doesn't lose its definition of space.

There are some positives though: Rapidly-developed residential density (which most urban districts in Oklahoma just can't muster), excellent neighborhood identification (though I'd argue if 3rd can be renamed Leon Russell Rd, why can't 15th actually be Cherry St??), and probably Oklahoma's best collection of oddball and unique businesses.

Businesses will suffer temporary business losses and motorists will grumble and moan about construction, just like they did with Brookside, but the end result was fabulous there and could be fabulous on Cherry, which doesn't even need as elaborate a streetscape as Brookside got.