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Started by tigerlily, January 18, 2011, 11:43:34 AM

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tigerlily

While shopping around for new cable/internet service I noticed that Comcast does not serve the Tulsa area. I think it is time that Cox have some competition their prices are getting ridiculous. Does anyone else now of a good cable/internet service provider in the area that provides good service at a cheaper price. No dial up please.

swake

Quote from: tigerlily on January 18, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
While shopping around for new cable/internet service I noticed that Comcast does not serve the Tulsa area. I think it is time that Cox have some competition their prices are getting ridiculous. Does anyone else now of a good cable/internet service provider in the area that provides good service at a cheaper price. No dial up please.

Cox and Comcast will never serve the same areas anywhere.

Cox's competition locally includes U-verse (AT&T), DISH and DirecTV.

TheTed

Quote from: swake on January 18, 2011, 11:48:13 AM
Cox and Comcast will never serve the same areas anywhere.

Cox's competition locally includes U-verse (AT&T), DISH and DirecTV.

What's the deal with U-verse? I've been wanting to give them a try for the longest time, but they don't seem to serve downtown. At this point, I wonder if they're still expanding their service area or if they're just gonna serve the parts of town they're already serving.
 

Hoss

Quote from: tigerlily on January 18, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
While shopping around for new cable/internet service I noticed that Comcast does not serve the Tulsa area. I think it is time that Cox have some competition their prices are getting ridiculous. Does anyone else now of a good cable/internet service provider in the area that provides good service at a cheaper price. No dial up please.

You have obviously not heard complaints from ComCrap customers.

And it wouldn't be feasible, even if one were to try and move in.  The entire CATV/Fiber structure was built by Cox.  Do you seriously think that a competitor could give competitive prices if they had to pay a line lease to Cox, which would almost certainly be the case?

Hoss

Quote from: TheTed on January 18, 2011, 11:51:31 AM
What's the deal with U-verse? I've been wanting to give them a try for the longest time, but they don't seem to serve downtown. At this point, I wonder if they're still expanding their service area or if they're just gonna serve the parts of town they're already serving.

It's the same all over their service areas in different cities.  Some parts have it available, others don't.

Mine doesn't.

I'm not too hurt about it though.  From people I've spoken with, if you watch HD TV, it nearly renders your high speed internet unusable.  I've also heard not very flattering things regarding the quality of the HD service.

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on January 18, 2011, 12:47:06 PM
Very happy DirecTV customer here.

Tell us how that works out when the snow covers your dish on Thursday.

;)

Just funnin' with ya, C.  After yesterdays Facebook post a lighter tone is needed for sure.

As a note; I'm preparing to contact the local cable service and have them set me up on the whole home DVR setup, much like Dish/Direct has.  I hear the wait for install is about two weeks right now.

TheTed

Quote from: Hoss on January 18, 2011, 12:45:45 PM
It's the same all over their service areas in different cities.  Some parts have it available, others don't.

Mine doesn't.

I'm not too hurt about it though.  From people I've spoken with, if you watch HD TV, it nearly renders your high speed internet unusable.  I've also heard not very flattering things regarding the quality of the HD service.

For me, it's not apples to apples, though. Uverse has so many sports channels that Cox doesn't. I'd put up with lesser quality to be able to get all the regional sports channels. And a dish is the only other way to get those channels. And that's not an option.
 

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on January 18, 2011, 12:52:18 PM
Tell us how that works out when the snow covers your dish on Thursday.

;)

Just funnin' with ya, C.  After yesterdays Facebook post a lighter tone is needed for sure.

As a note; I'm preparing to contact the local cable service and have them set me up on the whole home DVR setup, much like Dish/Direct has.  I hear the wait for install is about two weeks right now.


I'm pretty sure I had snow on the dish after it was installed last year.  I've lost reception during a couple of severe thunderstorms, but other than that, it's been incredibly reliable.  We shall see if we get a good snow.  Fortunately it's within a broom's reach, if needed.  ;)
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on January 18, 2011, 01:17:34 PM
I'm pretty sure I had snow on the dish after it was installed last year.  I've lost reception during a couple of severe thunderstorms, but other than that, it's been incredibly reliable.  We shall see if we get a good snow.  Fortunately it's within a broom's reach, if needed.  ;)

As Will the Artist can tell you, I had an 8 foot C-Band dish as I grew up in the house I now live in.  The snow on those things was murder.  Signal degradation on a C-Band when snow accumulates on the dish is terrible.

Brooms worked on those as well, it just took longer.

swake

Quote from: Hoss on January 18, 2011, 01:56:33 PM
As Will the Artist can tell you, I had an 8 foot C-Band dish as I grew up in the house I now live in.  The snow on those things was murder.  Signal degradation on a C-Band when snow accumulates on the dish is terrible.

Brooms worked on those as well, it just took longer.

Were you a Superstar Satellite customer?

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on January 18, 2011, 01:56:33 PM
As Will the Artist can tell you, I had an 8 foot C-Band dish as I grew up in the house I now live in.  The snow on those things was murder.  Signal degradation on a C-Band when snow accumulates on the dish is terrible.

Brooms worked on those as well, it just took longer.

Whenever I see one of those dishes, I always think "guacamole bowl from hell"

Only issue I've got now with my DirecTV is trying to get my remotes to match up. Anyone know of a good universal remote compatible with DirecTV.  I've tried all the codes they recommend and they don't seem to work or will only control volume on the TV, not power and volume. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

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My friend said Cox is charging his parents about $25/month more than he pays in Kansas City.  Its pretty crazy the cost for cable.  I believe Cox has "franchises" with the separate cities.  I may be wrong though.

Cable and Satellite free since 2008.  I have purchased maybe $30 worth of shows in the last few years.  I still watch most of the shows I want to watch.  I only miss Showtime and HBO.  Just trash it all and they will lower their prices then.

nathanm

Quote from: Hoss on January 18, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
And it wouldn't be feasible, even if one were to try and move in.  The entire CATV/Fiber structure was built by Cox.  Do you seriously think that a competitor could give competitive prices if they had to pay a line lease to Cox, which would almost certainly be the case?
This is why I think infrastructure and service should be separated. Preferably with public/cooperative ownership of brand-spanking-new fiber and strong regulation to prevent the owner of the physical wire from profiteering. This would significantly increase competition in the last mile. A "public option" of sorts like several cities have done (Lafayette, LA and Chattanooga, TN come immediately to mind) would be a fine alternative, but it seems silly to install new infrastructure that doesn't have enforced line sharing.

SBC was required to do line sharing for some years, and did, but the FCC has decided they no longer need to enforce federal law on the subject, at least with respect to data services. They decided federal law only applies to lines served directly from the central office, thus leaving them free to keep U-Verse and remote terminal based DSL all to themselves. When you called up SBC to buy DSL service, you were actually getting Internet service from SBC Internet Services who paid a company called ASI (a wholly owned subsidiary of SBC) for the physical part. This is how you could get DSL from other, competing, companies.

From the customer's perspective, it was a little annoying because the DSL field techs generally weren't as good as the old telco guys who went back to doing voice only after the split. Of course, the tradeoff was that you could call ASI directly and get them to fix your problem without dealing with the 100% abysmal SBCIS call center.
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