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Recession is over?

Started by shadows, January 23, 2011, 07:56:57 PM

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Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.


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Finally.  A poster that can appropriately respond to Shadows comments.  :P

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swake

Quote from: shadows on January 23, 2011, 07:56:57 PM
Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.





Drinking on Sunday afternoon watching football again?

To what I think is the gist of your rambling and muddled point: You do know that average wages in the private sector are higher than in the public sector? And that only about 1.3% of the workforce earns minimum wage or less? And further that those people making $290 or less a week pay effectively no tax between local sales tax rebates, person exemptions and the Earn Income Tax credit among others and often receive money through the tax system due to those programs. And that's not taking into account any social services that such a person might qualify for. Your constant imagery of government workers profiting on the backs of the huddled poor masses slaving simply isn't true. You are full of crap and you know it. You just attempt hide that fact in misspellings and fractured wording.

Hoss

Quote from: shadows on January 23, 2011, 07:56:57 PM
Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.




Is that like 'Rent is too damn high'?

dbacks fan

Quote from: shadows on January 23, 2011, 07:56:57 PM
Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.




So does this mean that we won't have to go through the last two years of a six year wage increase freeze? Will we finally get a cost of living raise after four years without?

swake

Quote from: Hoss on January 24, 2011, 10:03:22 AM
Is that like 'Rent is too damn high'?

He makes about that much sense, but Shadows is much less entertaining.


shadows

Quote from: dbacks fan on January 24, 2011, 10:12:47 AM
So does this mean that we won't have to go through the last two years of a six year wage increase freeze? Will we finally get a cost of living raise after four years without?
It would be well to know if all the responders to the post were receiving a paycheck drawn upon the city coffers or from the well subsidized industries by the city like the airplane repair or the city bus manufacturing company.  One can be sure that none of the responders are SS recipients who government abandoned the COL increases for them years ago.   

Has not the time come to where all pensions are consolidated into one and that there is equal pay to all retirees in order to put a halt on a rapid  decaying economy system that past history records show ended failures?

I hear the overture now playing, do you?
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Red Arrow

Quote from: shadows on January 24, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
Has not the time come to where all pensions are consolidated into one and that there is equal pay to all retirees...

No!
 

Gaspar

"Has not the time come. . ."


Nope!
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Quote from: shadows on January 24, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
It would be well to know if all the responders to the post were receiving a paycheck drawn upon the city coffers or from the well subsidized industries by the city like the airplane repair or the city bus manufacturing company.  One can be sure that none of the responders are SS recipients who government abandoned the COL increases for them years ago.   

Has not the time come to where all pensions are consolidated into one and that there is equal pay to all retirees in order to put a halt on a rapid  decaying economy system that past history records show ended failures?

I hear the overture now playing, do you?


Do you say "rue the day"?

RecycleMichael

Quote from: shadows on January 24, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
I hear the overture now playing, do you?

That is just your eight track player. Pull out the tape and turn the radio to a news station.
Power is nothing till you use it.

shadows

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Quote from: swake on January 24, 2011, 09:39:19 AM

Drinking on Sunday afternoon watching football again?

To what I think is the gist of your rambling and muddled point: You do know that average wages in the private sector are higher than in the public sector? And that only about 1.3% of the workforce earns minimum wage or less? And further that those people making $290 or less a week pay effectively no tax between local sales tax rebates, person exemptions and the Earn Income Tax credit among others and often receive money through the tax system due to those programs. And that's not taking into account any social services that such a person might qualify for. Your constant imagery of government workers profiting on the backs of the huddled poor masses slaving simply isn't true. You are full of crap and you know it. You just attempt hide that fact in misspellings and fractured wording.

Many surveys and articles are available showing that government jobs, with their perks, exceed those salaries that private industries can pay.  The private industries, not subsidized by government, must rely on the economy barter of exchange which establishes its own wage scale.

The comparison is biased by which side of the desk one is sitting at.   On the bottom line half of the world is in rebellion because governments isolate them selves from the common people.   Here in the city and state the tea party is a small spark of a peaceful rebellion that is being fanned into a flame.  Take a walk around your desk to the chair on the other side and sit in it looking for a way for halting a rising rebellion against isolating the common citizen that is the foundation of our system.  No structure can exist without a foundation.  Have fun.    
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Townsend

Quote from: shadows on January 24, 2011, 04:27:15 PM
Many surveys and articles are available showing that government jobs, with their perks, exceed those salaries that private industries can pay.

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