Walker v. Public Employees

[guido911]

As I understand the issue that has the public employees unions' collective panties wadded up their crack is that they are being asked to shoulder some of their health care and pension benefits and that the union could no longer collectively bargain for benefits. I have posted some dooshbaggery by some of the teacher protesters, including their using their students as props. Now, we have dem state senators hiding out in another state in order to prevent a vote on the bill at issue (remember Texas officials hiding out in Oklahoma a few years back to avoid a vote on redistricting?).

I posted no links since there are numerous out there. If anyone is interested, Drudge is all over this.

[guido911]

Here is a vid of one of these runaway/obstructionist senators being questioned by a tea partier:

[RecycleMichael]

He refuses to negotiate with any public employee unions...any negotiation. He instead has press conferences where he demand they give up their collective bargaing rights.

Then he has said if he doesn't get his way, he will take away Medicaid benefits to 200,000 children.

Then he said if people protest him, he will call out the National Guard.

He is a bully, a creep, and threatens those who oppose him.

Of course he is your hero.

[Conan71]

He refuses to negotiate with any public employee unions...any negotiation. He instead has press conferences where he demand they give up their collective bargaing rights.

Then he has said if he doesn't get his way, he will take away Medicaid benefits to 200,000 children.

Then he said if people protest him, he will call out the National Guard.

He is a bully, a creep, and threatens those who oppose him.

Of course he is your hero.

I saw him eating baby brains.

[guido911]

He refuses to negotiate with any public employee unions...any negotiation. He instead has press conferences where he demand they give up their collective bargaing rights.

Then he has said if he doesn't get his way, he will take away Medicaid benefits to 200,000 children.

Then he said if people protest him, he will call out the National Guard.

He is a bully, a creep, and threatens those who oppose him.

Of course he is your hero.

What is the National Guard supposed to do if they are mobilized? Shoot the protesters?  Please explain. As for being a bully, the fact that he is trying to cover billion plus shortfall by not raising taxes makes him such?

RM, you are a big education guy. What do you think about these teachers calling in "sick", thus depriving Wisconsin's children from learning, and then dragging their students to join their little protest? Knowing of course that teachers are your heroes.

[Red Arrow]

He refuses to negotiate with any public employee unions...any negotiation.

Save me some time.  Have the public employee unions agreed to negotiate or are they only willing to re-state their demands?

[RecycleMichael]

I saw him eating baby brains.

I bet he kicks puppies.

[guido911]

I saw him eating baby brains.

And shooting kittens.

[RecycleMichael]

What is the National Guard supposed to do if they are mobilized? Shoot the protesters?  Please explain. As for being a bully, the fact that he is trying to cover billion plus shortfall by not raising taxes makes him such?

RM, you are a big education guy. What do you think about these teachers calling in "sick", thus depriving Wisconsin's children from learning, and then dragging their students to join their little protest? Knowing of course that teachers are your heroes.

It did disturb me that teachers all called in sick.

"Dragging" their students is a little over the top. Those students wanted any excuse to skip class.

[Conan71]

It did disturb me that teachers all called in sick.

"Dragging" their students is a little over the top. Those students wanted any excuse to skip class.

And listening to the sound bites, sounds like a lot of the kids had no idea what or why they were protesting.  They were just glad to be out of school.

[RecycleMichael]

It is Wisconsin.

He just told the unions to smell his dairy air.

[guido911]

And listening to the sound bites, sounds like a lot of the kids had no idea what or why they were protesting.  They were just glad to be out of school.

Here's the video of the teachers using their students.

What scumbags.

[nathanm]

Good to see the shock doctrine is alive and well. (and so is guido's lack of critical thinking)

It's a $137 million deficit, bud. Moreover, until the governor and his cronies took over and decided to spend some more money to make up a crisis, there was a budget surplus. [1]

Let's not let the facts get in the way of union bashing, though. That would be communist or something.

Edited to add more facts:

Based upon the November/December reports, the administration's general fund condition
statement for 2010-11 reflects a gross ending balance (June 30, 2011) of $67.4 million and a net
balance (after consideration of the $65.0 million required statutory balance) of $2.4 million.
Our analysis indicates a general fund gross balance of $121.4 million and a net balance of
$56.4 million. This is $54.0 million above that of the administration's reports. The 2010-11
general fund condition statement is shown in Table 1.

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/2011_01_31Vos&Darling.pdf

Edited again to add: Even with the excess spending, there's still about a $100,000 surplus over and above the $65 million surplus required by state law. I hate liars, and I hate idiots who try to use the shock doctrine and don't cover their tracks. I pity the fools who fall for this smile.

[guido911]

Good to see the shock doctrine is alive and well. (and so is guido's lack of critical thinking)

It's a $137 million deficit, bud. Moreover, until the governor and his cronies took over and decided to spend some more money to make up a crisis, there was a budget surplus. [1]

Let's not let the facts get in the way of union bashing, though. That would be communist or something.

Edited to add more facts:

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/2011_01_31Vos&Darling.pdf

Edited again to add: Even with the excess spending, there's still about a $100,000 surplus over and above the $65 million surplus required by state law. I hate liars, and I hate idiots who try to use the shock doctrine and don't cover their tracks. I pity the fools who fall for this smile.

Aww. Poor unions. These dooshes are at war with the taxpayers of WI and Obama is siding with them. And give me a freakin break with this "shock doctrine" crap. I heard enough of that when stimulus and health care was at issue. BTW, I have a $3.6B figure for Wisconsin's deficit "bud".

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/02/obama-on-wisconsin-budget-protests-an-assault-on-workers.html

[nathanm]

Nice try. That's a projected future figure that isn't germane to the budget bill under discussion. As in, the fix being considered only applies to the present budget that hasn't been passed yet and isn't even under consideration.

Also, you should understand what exactly the shock doctrine is before invoking the term. Hint: The stimulus fails the test, not being a change in policy, much less a radical one.