TPD Captain disciplined for refusing..

[Hoss]

...to order his officers to attend the Islamic Society's law enforcement appreciation day next month.

Another article on the Whirled about it as well, but don't read if you don't want to get 'teh Stupidz'...

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=14075965

[Conan71]

If previous policy has been attendance is voluntary, then I don't see why the PD should make it compulsory to attend this event. 

Otherwise the comments are stupid.  I listened to the dimwits all the way back from OKC this morning. 

[Hoss]

If previous policy has been attendance is voluntary, then I don't see why the PD should make it compulsory to attend this event. 

Otherwise the comments are stupid.  I listened to the dimwits all the way back from OKC this morning. 

I agree, but if the Deputy Chief ORDERS you to do this due to no one volunteering, it's tantamount to someone ordering me to do something at my job.  Do it or get written up; possibly terminated.  Why should it be any different at the PD?

[DTowner]

Bring on the reeducation camps, I mean, sensitivity training seminars.

[guido911]

Police: Don't want to go? Call in sick and get a phony doctor's note. You will get the support of many in this forum.

[Townsend]

Police: Don't want to go? Call in sick and get a phony doctor's note. You will get the support of many in this forum.

That's stealing.  You sure that's the way to go?

[guido911]

That's stealing.  You sure that's the way to go?

Sarcasm fail on my part.

[Townsend]

Sarcasm fail on my part.

Me too apparently.  Smiley winky face

[Conan71]

I agree, but if the Deputy Chief ORDERS you to do this due to no one volunteering, it's tantamount to someone ordering me to do something at my job.  Do it or get written up; possibly terminated.  Why should it be any different at the PD?

I think it's one thing to order a captain to order his officers to go to continuing ed, some sort of investigation, or a mob scene but something entirely different on a "community outreach" mission at the behest of a religious organization.  I'd say the same thing if it was Holy Family Cathedral or Asbury, it matters not to me that it's the Islamic Center wanting to host this.  If officers want to go of their own volition, that's fine, but I don't see that it's the cities place to compel their employees to attend whether it's police officers or trench diggers for the public works department.

[Breadburner]

I think the Mooselums should come to see them......

[patric]

Mark this momentus day on you calendar, but Im siding with the FOP and the Captain on this one.

Not that I remotely believe that this was an indoctrination attempt, but it seems that this is a circumstance where there should have been a more sincere effort to seek voluntary participation than to make it compulsory.

Besides the officer's mindset, how would you like to be the host of a "thank you" party with the awkward knowledge that the guests of honor are being threatened with their jobs to attend?

It's another of a long line of bad moves by the deputy chiefs.

[Gaspar]

Police: Don't want to go? Call in sick and get a phony doctor's note. You will get the support of many in this forum.

Perhaps doctors could show up at the police station and hand out fake doctors notes.

[tulsa_fan]

I'm not as focused on the fact that it is a "religious" thing.  Past practices of the department are that appreciation days like this are voluntary, they put the fliers up, mention it as squad meeting, and that's the end of it.  Likely, had they handled it like that, there probably would have been several officers that would have gone, it's free food . . . 

The only other "appreciation" days I can remember have been at non-church places, LEO Appreciaion Day at Driller's Stadium, the thing KFAQ put on years ago, again though, officers weren't FORCED to attend, and those were also community events, not set up by the people who run them only for officers to attend.

The officers do their job and don't care why religion the people are they are attending to, so I do hate that this is trying to make officers look bad, the issue is the required ORDER to attend.  It was an order, there is no doubt about it.  It's been handled horribly and I'm sure some people will try to use this to further their cause that the TPD is rascist, that annoys me.

[Red Arrow]

Are the officers being forced to attend on their own time on are they on the clock?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Ahhhh....how cute!....Breadhead tried to make a funny!!



This whole mess is ridiculous.  Never should have ordered officers to go, even if on the clock.  (Especially if on the clock?)
Sad that the TPD is so horribly biased against the citizens of this city they have taken an oath to protect.  Makes me wonder how much enthusiasm they would bring to that part of the job.